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No Connection, No Flush (lemmy.ml)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/programmer_humor@programming.dev
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[–] 207 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I can consider acceptable for the kettles to be connected to the internet if, and only if, they answer always with a 418 status code.

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  • [–] 47 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I'm perfectly fine with enabling a connection, just not requiring one.

    For example - my lights are automated. They have a switch though. If they went offline (or my server does), I can press the entirely local switch and have light.

    As a reminder though, 418 is supposed to be the response for requests of the teapot to brew coffee.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    I can press the entirely local switch and have light.

    Are you sure about that? Is it a local connected smart switch (still fancy electronics, just local) or a plain old power switch?

    If it’s a power switch, and If you turned your lights off by app over the internet, and then the internet went out, then your lights’ ability to come back on when you flick the physical switch depends on somebody having thought about this need and programmed a “oh, the switch was flicked so I better ignore the internet settings” mode.

    And if they did that, it also probably means your lights all turn on after a power outage since the light can’t tell the difference between power outage and light switch flipped off.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Any smart lights I've seen always turn on when going from no power to power. It's a little annoying when the power blinks and half the house lights up, but it means physical switches always work.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Smart lights should be used rarely because they have a failure state. Smart switches are the answer here for most lighting. These are light switches that also have radios in them to connect to zigbee/zwave/matter/whatever to control the switch if the connection is available.

    Lutreon sells high quality, but somewhat expensive ones that work flawlessly.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    For most people, the thought of replacing an outlet or switch is daunting to say the least. My IKEA smart bulbs are going on 7 years old and still working great.

    I did replace every single outlet and switch in my house when I moved in, but that was before I knew about ZigBee or Zwave, and well before matter existed.

    I don't feel the need to replace most of my switches and half of my outlets again.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Are you sure about that?

    Lol yes. Its a relay with a secondary control via mqtt with intermittent status reporting.

    it also probably means your lights all turn on after a power outage since the light can’t tell the difference between power outage and light switch flipped off.

    Not how that works.

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