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Hi! Just wanting to migrate from big tech and going BuyfromEU. I am trying out Posteo, which does not have an app only web interface. Since I can’t stay logged in on the web I’m using Apple Mail app as a gateway to simplify usage. To my question, is this totally counter productive to my privacy, pro-eu stance? Will apple mail collect my posteo data through the posteo now instead? Previously using outlook.

Thanks in advance!

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'd say that using a Mac/iPhone is totally counterproductive for your pro-EU stance.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Given the cost of replacing one's phone or computer, being pro-EU in terms of new purchases is far better than doing nothing at all.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No one said do nothing. Apple Mail makes escaping, now or later, harder.

Apple Mail fails to include a libre software license text file, like AGPL. We do not control it, anti-libre software.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It depends how technical a user is, whether it's a realistic goal to move away completely from both Apple and Android smartphones. And if choosing between those two, I would choose Apple as the lesser evil.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I disagree. Even for the average user being relegated to the Apple ecosystem is a worse situation than being in Google's one where you at least have a far broader choice of apps to use as an alternative to the stock ones.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Everyone is entitled to their opinion of course, but to me it's a no-brainer to choose between the company that sells hardware and the company that sells users to advertisers.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Apple's business includes advertisement too though. I can agree that it is not Google, but not that it is only a hardware seller.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

At least Android has degoogled variants.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Custom ROMs are obviously the best choice but we're talking specifically about what advice to give to a non-technical user who isn't going to unlock their bootloader and flash a custom ROM, nor are they going to be able to use a linux phone or some other alternative that requires some technical know-how.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You can do that for them, you can show them. Apple want us to feel alone but we are not. Want to really fix privacy? Make in-person groups. Apple wants us alone. It helps Apple and Google takeover.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, fair. Still, Graphene was very easy to install and I think that my mom would've been able to use the web installer.