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Lemmy newb here, not sure if this is right for this /c.

An article I found from someone who hosts their own website and micro-social network, and their experience with web-scraping robots who refuse to respect robots.txt, and how they deal with them.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You know how popular VPNs are, right? And how they improve privacy and security for people who is them? And you're blocking anyone who's exercising a basic privacy right?

It's not an ethically sound position.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Absolutely; if I was a company, or hosting something important, or something that was intended for the general public, then I'd agree.

But I'm just an idiot hosting whimsical stuff from my basement, and 99% of it is only of interest for my friends. I know ~everyone in my target audience, and I know that none of them use a VPN for general-purpose browsing.

As it is, I don't mind keeping the door open to the general public, but nothing of value will be lost if I need to pull the plug on some more ASN's to preserve my bandwidth. For example when a guy hopping through a VPN in Sweden decides to download the same zip file thousands of times, wasting terabytes of traffic over a few hours (this happened a week ago).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I know that none of them use a VPN for general-purpose browsing.

Interesting. The most common setup I encounter is when the VPN is implemented in the home router - that's the way it is in my house. If you're connected to my WiFi, you're going through my VPN.

I have a second VPN, which is how my private servers are connected; that's a bespoke peer-to-peer subnet set up in each machine, but it handles almost no outbound traffic.

My phone detects when it isn't connected to my home WiFi and automatically turns on the VPN service for all phone data; that's probably less common. I used to just leave it on all the time, but VPN over VPN seemed a little excessive.

It sounds like you were a victim of a DOS attack - not distributed, though. It could have just been done directly; what about it being through a VPN made it worse?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You had me until the "ethically sound position" part.

You're saying that Joe Blogger is acting unethically because he doesn't allow VPN users to visit his site. C'mon, brother.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

You're saying targeting people who are taking steps to improve their privacy and security is ethical? Out do you just believe that there's no such thing as ethics in CIS?