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[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Literally the very first comment in that thread I see is the instance admin speaking in support of russia for no other reason than it being opposed to the US.

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[–] eureka@aussie.zone 1 point 2 years ago* (7 children)

Just like I said, "critical support". They're clear that it's a capitalist "dictatorship of the owning class" (like other liberal-democracies) and that they're critical of their domestic policies. If NATO were no longer as powerful as it is now, then they'd move on to calling for the Russian Federation's fall, but it's clear which of the two is a more imminent threat to countries around the globe. It's like voting for Democrats over Republicans in the US election – they've both proven themselves to be terrible but voting for the lesser evil might be pragmatically effective, and voting third party or boycotting is debatably an idealistic waste of effort.

As someone else mentioned, this is a campist approach to geopolitics.

the US

I wouldn't limit "the imperial core" to the US, but basically, yes.

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[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Scrolling through the thread, the keyword in "critical support" seems to be more "support" and less "critical".

Also, right now US is not the country that's launching drones to blow up the civilian houses in the city I live in, which, somehow, seems to be presented as a "humanitarian" move in that thread. So you might want to rethink how much evil you can allow your "lesser evil" to be.

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[–] eureka@aussie.zone 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Just to be clear, I am not an M–L, I'm explaining their position because it's important to understand when it comes to geopol.

Also, right now US is not the country that’s launching drones to blow up the civilian houses in the city I live in

That's absolutely true. And on the other hand, the US are also launching drones to blow up civilian houses in other countries, so you will find plenty of people online who are more against the US, just like you rightfully have good reason to want Russia to fall. Ukraine is the theatre of a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it's a fucking tragedy. The M–L position is that, being a proxy war, the US prolonged it for their own benefit (it's not their soldiers and citizens being attacked) until they finally threw Ukraine away and negotiated terms with the enemy. Normally that step happens diplomatically behind doors when they do it to other countries.

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[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago

Not trying to attack you personally - just genuinely trying to find the "critical" part of the "critical support". One would think that they'd be more critical of Putin when his goals seem to be openly aligned with Trump's.

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Also, right now US is not the country that’s launching drones to blow up the civilian houses in the city I live in

Right, they're just helping Israel murder Palestinian children.

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[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

Hi, whataboutism

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

I'm just pointing out the fact that they're still blowing people up, even if it isn't happening to you. You don't get to act like the US is the lesser evil when it's doing genocide.

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[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

It isn't. Both russia and US are evil. There is no lesser one.