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The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)
Stackslobber posts evidence that transhumanism is a literal cult, HN crowd is not having it
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43459990
In my head transhumanism is this cool idea where I'd get to have a zoom function in my eye
But of course none of that could exist in our capitalist hellscape because of just all the reasons the ruling class would use it to opress the working class.
And then you find out what transhumanists actually advocate for and it's just eugenics. Like without even a tiny bit of plausible deniability. They're proud it's eugenics.
@V0ldek @gerikson you'll have the zoom function, but 80% of your field of view will be covered in ads.
@fazalmajid @V0ldek @gerikson plus it's zoom as in video conferencing
@V0ldek @gerikson I've seen the stories of people whose medical devices stop working because the supply company either went out of business, was sold, or stopped supporting those devices
If that's already happening, what kind of subscription fees will the Transhumanist Corporation charge for Cost of Living?
@V0ldek @gerikson after reading a book written in Cyberpunk 2077 universe, I had bitter though about why the hell we couldn't have cool body modifications if we already have to live in cyberpunk world. But cyberpunk things we could have are surveillance and powerful corporations.
@madargon @V0ldek @gerikson @techtakes Obviously you read the wrong cyberpunk. (Go root out Bruce Sterling's short story "20 Evocations", collected in Schismatrix Plus, and you'll see an assassin having his arms and legs repossessed because he can't kill enough people to keep up with the loan repayment schedule …)
@madargon @V0ldek @gerikson
Because Cyberpunk isn’t about buying and having. It’s about making. The violence and greed is the reason cyberpunks exist: as a counterforce, not as enforcers.
Play IRL in Hackaday instead.
@V0ldek those transhumanist guys really think that it won't be them to be weeded out by applied eugenics ...
@V0ldek @gerikson 🖖 I don't think so ... https://youtu.be/DqPd6MShV1o
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@[email protected] yeah quite a few people have seen only the very top surface of transhumanism, and then sun it off with their own ideas and world building without engaging on a deeper level sometimes intentionally sometimes not
I, like many trans people I'd suspect just wanted out of this unsatisfying body and didn't engage beyond that to any meaningful level
@V0ldek @gerikson This is why we need a different term for those of us who want arbitrary augmentation to be available for everybody, without any corporate/fascist/TESCREAL pollution.
@KatS @V0ldek @gerikson "Wanted: helper. Gig/1099 only. Must have Zoom Eye v3 or later implanted with active subscription to apply. $7.25/hour"
@timjclevenger @V0ldek @gerikson Exactly the kind of pollution I'm talking about not wanting.
@V0ldek @gerikson transhumanism has nothing to do with eugenics lmao
it would be nice if people ever read the history of their favourite thing
it's extremely established that it does
@froztbyte how to tell me you dont know anything about transhumanism without telling me you dont know anything about transhumanism:
@froztbyte I think @d4rkness is eliding a few steps that look clear to them, but they're basically right: eugenics is about all transhumanists can do *today*, a lot of transhumanism is warmed-over Technocracy (the Musk family's ideological wellspring), Technocracy was *def* on board with eugenics (and apartheid), so here we are: they aspire to more but eugenics is what they can do today so they're doing it.
(I've been studying transhumanism since roughly 1990 and that's my considered opinion.)
I'd agree there, and it might be that that's what they meant, but as you say it still doesn't leave the two things disconnected. didn't see them heading in the direction of amusing debate, however!
(I'd wondered from your past writings how long you'd been looking into this shit, TIL the year!)
sorry, all the mental pretzels were taken up by the other poster a few days ago, you'll have to contort your nonsense yourself. best avoid the history books though, they'll make it really hard for you to achieve what you want
type the words “transhumanism eugenics” into ddg and see what comes up. but mostly just fuck off tbh
@froztbyte but its not