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Oh yeah, the whole climate change can be more or less traced back to managers only thinking about the next profits but let's say, it's only unregulated ice cream...
(not saying the genocide doesn't happen, but capitalism probably Skills more people than China)
Capitalism, as we understand it today, is a relatively recent development in human history. For the vast majority of human existence, societies have been structured around other forms of economic organization like tribalism, feudalism, or mercantilism. Capitalism is not the default but a system that evolved over time in response to specific historical, technological, and social conditions.
There are multiple successful economies worldwide that blend elements of capitalism with other economic systems, such as the Nordic model of social democracy, which combines free market capitalism with a strong welfare state. If capitalism were the default, we would not see such variety in economic systems.
Do you actually not know the difference between free trade and capitalism? Capitalism is when investors own the means of production in order to extract profit from a disparity between price and cost (including labor wages). There are plenty of free trade models which don't utilize capitalism, they are not the same thing.
Grog (the worker) owned his own axe (means of production) and traded the wood he gathered for shiny shells (free trade). Capitalism would be if Bunga (capitalist) owned the axe and then traded the wood Grog gathered himself, giving Grog some shells while keeping the rest (profit).
How did you get there from what I said? If anything, form a worker co-op, which is literally socialism.
People have bemoaned capitalism as long as it has existed. When do you think this "golden age" of capitalism was when everyone was universally content with the state of affairs?
Pierre-Joseph Proudhon, 1851
I guess he was ahead of his time; able to criticize capitalism before it was invented!
HAHAHA if you think that's a wall of text, have a great day. I'll try and find a shorter quote to totally disprove you next time.
Nice pictures!
Now do all the wars, the US has started in the last 70 years.
And don't forget their "war on drugs" as well as the opioid crisis, constant gun massacres, slaves in third world countries and so on.
Again, I do not want to play down any massacre done by any regime but your "natural default" is just straight up bullshit.
Capitalism only holds that long because people think they can be the ones spitting down.
In socialism all shall be equal but people want to be better than others.
Aha, so only "TRUE" capitalism can be critiqued.
Okay, I will not condemn communism, I will however condemn whatever China and Russia (and others) are doing which they call communism, while not granting most of their workers any rights let alone common ownership of the means of production or abandoning money, private property or social classes.
To your imperialism argument I quote Lenin:
And even if you differentiate between imperialism and capitalism... How is the US massacre problem imperialism? How is the "war on drugs"/the opioid crisis/whatever the US does with their healthcare-system? How do you explain the constant need for growth in spite of a worsening climate?
AHAHAHAHA, okay... Wow.
Have a nice day. Bye.
Certainly, if it's baseless propaganda you'll have no trouble rebutting all the points instead of attacking the source.
I am truly sorry to hear, that the UN, the Guardian, the NYT and DW are propaganda sites.
The others are just there to have all words be hyperlinks.
(... no i will not quote and emphasize that last sentence ...)
My goodness, what are you doing on this server? Who has tormented your mind wich such garbage?