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[–] 56 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (13 children)

This guy says that like "bombing Yemen" isn't a de facto tradition for U.S. presidents. I'm pretty sure every president since Clinton has bombed Yemen at some point during their term. It's old hat. It's not news. It was Tuesday.

Like, sure, it's terrible and no one will deny that, but we've been doing it for 20+ years. This? This clownfuckery? This was new.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    It is so normal nobody even mentioned the innocent lives being lost as colleteral damage at the hearing

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

    Unfortunately it's always been the case for as long as humans have had war that the civilian casualty ratio is around 50% to 90%.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualty_ratio

    Edit: Apparently the 90% figure is a myth. According to the wiki it's much more likely to be 50% to 60%.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Maybe we could try not doing that

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    How? Armed conflicts sometimes happen, and I've yet to see a working plan which doesn't endanger any civilians.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Good point. Let's just not do war altogether

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Well what are you going to do when some murderous prick like Putin or indeed Trump comes knocking? Give up?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    Maybe we should only fight when we have something worth defending. If it's our murderous prick vs their murderous prick, we should give up because who cares, what difference does it make? But if one side is actually helping people in material ways and the other is a murderous prick, then there's actually something worth fighting for.

    Or to put it another way, "No war but class war."

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