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[–] [email protected] 77 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Maybe keep your shitty politics out of your shitty product next time, and then you won't face political consequences.

[–] [email protected] 98 points 6 days ago

In this case it looks like they commited fraud, so it's not even just political.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That's not even what happened. I work in the auto industry, and they very blatantly abused the rebate program with what are almost certainly fake vouchers.

Some individual dealerships reported thousands of sales in a single day, and that would be a miracle even at the best of times for a well established dealer. There's no way Tesla is declining around the world and still selling miraculous numbers of vehicles.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Yeah I was really confused by the story, surely they actually have to provide some kind of evidence. Surely the Canadian government didn't just run it based on honesty. Wouldn't they have to provide the VIN or something.

But the very least I would have assumed that they had to list the name of the person they sold the car to.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Right, you’d think they would provide vin numbers, which the government would then check against vehicle registrations with whatever DMV equivalent.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

The iZEV program began in 2019 I believe, and given the timeline these sort of investigations and hearings take I would bet they did catch it pretty quickly.

Rather than comparing VINs another way to compare would be to go off the monthly or quarterly tax statements from corporations comparing sales to volume of rebates that way, but if they were committing fraud on the rebates that means they would also be committing tax fraud, but I have absolutely no idea how it was actually implemented I'm just spitballing here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

I'm open to being wrong, but this certainly doesn't pass a smell test. We'll see what happens.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I wonder if there is the possibility of the shareholders suing Elon because what he's doing is so demonstrably damaging the company. He could totally have done this and not had the big PR problem by just not doing random stuff without running it past anyone. But nooo.

People weren't happy about him essentially buying a governmental position but what they really objected to is all the subsequent things he did.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is one way to deal with conflict of interests not being addressed. Too badly it can’t work for everything else. Like I can’t “boycott” space travel.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Neither is their CEO.