▲ 697 ▼ both pretty extreme (lemmy.blahaj.zone) submitted 1 year ago by FenrirIII@lemmy.world to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world 109 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/23485321
[–] ahornsirup@feddit.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) There are more figures on the far left than anarchists. You can't just No true Scotsman Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Did those people try to deconstruct existing power structures while in office? That makes them counter revolutionary. The state is counter revolutionary. You can't abolish maters by using the master's tools. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ahornsirup@feddit.org 2 points 1 year ago That's just a No true Scotsman argument. Their (alleged) end goal was the creation of a classless, stateless communist society. They haven't achieved that, and they wouldn't have claimed to have achieved that. But they would've claimed that their crimes were a necessary step towards that goal. You can't just brush aside the people most associated with the "far left" label, regardless of whether or not you personally feel like they are "undeserving" of it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Did those people try to deconstruct existing power structures while in office? That makes them counter revolutionary. The state is counter revolutionary. You can't abolish maters by using the master's tools. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ahornsirup@feddit.org 2 points 1 year ago That's just a No true Scotsman argument. Their (alleged) end goal was the creation of a classless, stateless communist society. They haven't achieved that, and they wouldn't have claimed to have achieved that. But they would've claimed that their crimes were a necessary step towards that goal. You can't just brush aside the people most associated with the "far left" label, regardless of whether or not you personally feel like they are "undeserving" of it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ahornsirup@feddit.org 2 points 1 year ago That's just a No true Scotsman argument. Their (alleged) end goal was the creation of a classless, stateless communist society. They haven't achieved that, and they wouldn't have claimed to have achieved that. But they would've claimed that their crimes were a necessary step towards that goal. You can't just brush aside the people most associated with the "far left" label, regardless of whether or not you personally feel like they are "undeserving" of it. permalink fedilink source parent