▲ 697 ▼ both pretty extreme (lemmy.blahaj.zone) submitted 1 year ago by FenrirIII@lemmy.world to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world 109 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/23485321
[+] proletarians_must_suffer@lemmy.world -10 points 1 year ago (1 child) That would also mean that poor people choose to stay poor. They did not choose to be born into a class, but they do choose their futures. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) You're strawmanning again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] proletarians_must_suffer@lemmy.world -6 points 1 year ago (1 child) How comes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) They didn't say anything about thee poor chosing to be poor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] proletarians_must_suffer@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) They literally said that while people are born into a class, they decide their future and whether to stay in that class. I literally quoted it word for word. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) They were talking about the exploiter class. The thing about class war is that one class takes the freedom to chose away from the other class. You're claiming that people chose to be bullied after someone says that being a bully is a choice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] proletarians_must_suffer@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) The thing about class war is that one class takes the freedom to chose away from the other class. Oh really? But that would mean that proletarian revolution is impossible since proletarians can't choose to conduct it, bc they have no freedom to choose. I wonder what Marx thinks about that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) How does that follow in any way? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] proletarians_must_suffer@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Can exploited proletarians choose to start revolution and stop being exploited, or not? If yes, they have freedom of choice and being exploited is their choice, If not, then proletarian revolution is impossible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 point 1 year ago Ydu write as if there wasn't a power imbalance between the classes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) You're strawmanning again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] proletarians_must_suffer@lemmy.world -6 points 1 year ago (1 child) How comes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) They didn't say anything about thee poor chosing to be poor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] proletarians_must_suffer@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) They literally said that while people are born into a class, they decide their future and whether to stay in that class. I literally quoted it word for word. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) They were talking about the exploiter class. The thing about class war is that one class takes the freedom to chose away from the other class. You're claiming that people chose to be bullied after someone says that being a bully is a choice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] proletarians_must_suffer@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) The thing about class war is that one class takes the freedom to chose away from the other class. Oh really? But that would mean that proletarian revolution is impossible since proletarians can't choose to conduct it, bc they have no freedom to choose. I wonder what Marx thinks about that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) How does that follow in any way? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] proletarians_must_suffer@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Can exploited proletarians choose to start revolution and stop being exploited, or not? If yes, they have freedom of choice and being exploited is their choice, If not, then proletarian revolution is impossible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 point 1 year ago Ydu write as if there wasn't a power imbalance between the classes. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] proletarians_must_suffer@lemmy.world -6 points 1 year ago (1 child) How comes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) They didn't say anything about thee poor chosing to be poor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] proletarians_must_suffer@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) They literally said that while people are born into a class, they decide their future and whether to stay in that class. I literally quoted it word for word. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) They were talking about the exploiter class. The thing about class war is that one class takes the freedom to chose away from the other class. You're claiming that people chose to be bullied after someone says that being a bully is a choice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] proletarians_must_suffer@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) The thing about class war is that one class takes the freedom to chose away from the other class. Oh really? But that would mean that proletarian revolution is impossible since proletarians can't choose to conduct it, bc they have no freedom to choose. I wonder what Marx thinks about that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) How does that follow in any way? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] proletarians_must_suffer@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Can exploited proletarians choose to start revolution and stop being exploited, or not? If yes, they have freedom of choice and being exploited is their choice, If not, then proletarian revolution is impossible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 point 1 year ago Ydu write as if there wasn't a power imbalance between the classes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) They didn't say anything about thee poor chosing to be poor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] proletarians_must_suffer@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) They literally said that while people are born into a class, they decide their future and whether to stay in that class. I literally quoted it word for word. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) They were talking about the exploiter class. The thing about class war is that one class takes the freedom to chose away from the other class. You're claiming that people chose to be bullied after someone says that being a bully is a choice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] proletarians_must_suffer@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) The thing about class war is that one class takes the freedom to chose away from the other class. Oh really? But that would mean that proletarian revolution is impossible since proletarians can't choose to conduct it, bc they have no freedom to choose. I wonder what Marx thinks about that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) How does that follow in any way? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] proletarians_must_suffer@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Can exploited proletarians choose to start revolution and stop being exploited, or not? If yes, they have freedom of choice and being exploited is their choice, If not, then proletarian revolution is impossible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 point 1 year ago Ydu write as if there wasn't a power imbalance between the classes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] proletarians_must_suffer@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) They literally said that while people are born into a class, they decide their future and whether to stay in that class. I literally quoted it word for word. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) They were talking about the exploiter class. The thing about class war is that one class takes the freedom to chose away from the other class. You're claiming that people chose to be bullied after someone says that being a bully is a choice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] proletarians_must_suffer@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) The thing about class war is that one class takes the freedom to chose away from the other class. Oh really? But that would mean that proletarian revolution is impossible since proletarians can't choose to conduct it, bc they have no freedom to choose. I wonder what Marx thinks about that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) How does that follow in any way? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] proletarians_must_suffer@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Can exploited proletarians choose to start revolution and stop being exploited, or not? If yes, they have freedom of choice and being exploited is their choice, If not, then proletarian revolution is impossible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 point 1 year ago Ydu write as if there wasn't a power imbalance between the classes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) They were talking about the exploiter class. The thing about class war is that one class takes the freedom to chose away from the other class. You're claiming that people chose to be bullied after someone says that being a bully is a choice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] proletarians_must_suffer@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) The thing about class war is that one class takes the freedom to chose away from the other class. Oh really? But that would mean that proletarian revolution is impossible since proletarians can't choose to conduct it, bc they have no freedom to choose. I wonder what Marx thinks about that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) How does that follow in any way? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] proletarians_must_suffer@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Can exploited proletarians choose to start revolution and stop being exploited, or not? If yes, they have freedom of choice and being exploited is their choice, If not, then proletarian revolution is impossible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 point 1 year ago Ydu write as if there wasn't a power imbalance between the classes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] proletarians_must_suffer@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) The thing about class war is that one class takes the freedom to chose away from the other class. Oh really? But that would mean that proletarian revolution is impossible since proletarians can't choose to conduct it, bc they have no freedom to choose. I wonder what Marx thinks about that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) How does that follow in any way? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] proletarians_must_suffer@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Can exploited proletarians choose to start revolution and stop being exploited, or not? If yes, they have freedom of choice and being exploited is their choice, If not, then proletarian revolution is impossible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 point 1 year ago Ydu write as if there wasn't a power imbalance between the classes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) How does that follow in any way? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] proletarians_must_suffer@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Can exploited proletarians choose to start revolution and stop being exploited, or not? If yes, they have freedom of choice and being exploited is their choice, If not, then proletarian revolution is impossible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 point 1 year ago Ydu write as if there wasn't a power imbalance between the classes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] proletarians_must_suffer@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Can exploited proletarians choose to start revolution and stop being exploited, or not? If yes, they have freedom of choice and being exploited is their choice, If not, then proletarian revolution is impossible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 point 1 year ago Ydu write as if there wasn't a power imbalance between the classes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 point 1 year ago Ydu write as if there wasn't a power imbalance between the classes. permalink fedilink source parent