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The purpose of this community is sort of a "work out your frustrations by letting it all out" where different leftist tendencies can vent their frustrations with one another and more assertively and directly challenge one another. Hostility is allowed, but any racist, fascist, or reactionary crap wont be tolerated, nor will explicit threats.

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I'm astonished at how sensitive the mods must be over there.

Apparently you're allowed to say whatever baseless slander you like about the eeeeevil tankies but the minute someone says "Hold up a sec, you claim to be anti-authoritarian and yet you support authoritarianism either explicitly or implicitly?" and they have to shut it down immediately.

Regardless, I think I made a pretty solid counterargument to the typical complaint about communism being authoritarian.

Mfers skim read the Wikipedia entry on Hannah Arendt and start thinking they're justified in slinging accusations about "muh authoritarianism" smh.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

‘Valuable’ as in important; crucial to fascism, such as respect for the profit motive. To see one fascist describe it:

Hitler […] also recognized the importance of the profit motive. Deprived of the prospect of having his efforts rewarded, the person of ability often refrains from running risks. The economic failure of Communism has demonstrated this. In the absence of personal incentives and the opportunity for real individual initiative, the Soviet “command economy” lagged in all but a few fields, its industry years behind its competitors.

State monopoly tolls the death of all initiative, and hence of all progress.

For all men selflessly to pool their wealth might be marvelous, but it is also contrary to human nature. Nearly every man desires that his labor shall improve his own condition and that of his family, and feels that his brain, creative imagination, and persistence well deserve their reward.

Léon Degrelle, 1992

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

its industry years behind its competitors

Is he talking about before of after Hitler shat his pants realizing Soviet's industry far outmatched Germany's?

human nature

Ah, nothing beats the classics 🍷

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's funny isn't it, now that we know how it all turned out. Tragic af. I doubt it could've been avoided even if the Nazis knew that communist organisation is/was superior. As we're seeing again today, the yanks are oblivious to the power of using dialectical materialism to organise over a billion people.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

even if the Nazis knew that communist organisation is/was superior

If they did, they wouldn't be Nazis. There's a good reason the likes of Krupp supported Hitler and NSDAP, and it wasn't just their shared hatred of minorities

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

That makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

“The profit motive is the only reason people do stuff”

Atlas Shrugged hogwash