▲ 391 ▼ Anon is waiting for Japan (sh.itjust.works) submitted 1 year ago by Early_To_Risa@sh.itjust.works [M] to c/greentext@sh.itjust.works 185 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] gabelstapler@feddit.org 22 points 1 year ago (14 children) Japan is living in the year 2000, since 50 years. permalink fedilink source hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Gutek8134@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (9 children) Are they still using fax? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] gabelstapler@feddit.org 12 points 1 year ago (3 children) Largest market for fax machines... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children) and floppy discs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not true. Their goverment stopped requiring floppy disks... *checks notes* ...last year! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago im sure its still the biggest market. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Burghler@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago On God. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) There are some things where fax still makes sense. Maybe I'm old, but I'm not a fan of "digital signatures" and "digital seals" for professional licenses. In cases where a document needs to be signed and/or sealed, I would much prefer a fax to a PDF with a "digital seal". But that's just me and I'm a weird dude. Edit: Turns out fax is insecure. Did not know this but it makes sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago Modern PDF signing creates a digital fingerprint showing the device it was used on, whose credentials were used, a timestamp, and even a location if location services are turned on. But yea, I guess all that just can't compete with the ironclad security of a fucking ink pen. Oh, sorry. A copy of an ink pen. So much more secure and traceable. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child) There are some things where fax still makes sense Nope. Fax is insecure, you'd be better off signing w/o a "digital seal" or whatever and emailing it in. You can also print, sign, scan, and send, just like w/ a fax, but send as a PDF instead of insecurely over the telephone wires. I've done both digital signatures and scanned regular signatures, both work and are better than fax. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago I don't use fax... I was not aware that it was insecure but I guess that makes sense. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tiramichu@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago Looking back, I think we can say that the year 2000 was a much better time than 2025 permalink fedilink source parent [–] unresolved@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) what does that even mean? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 year ago I think it means that they were ahead of the curve prior to the year 2000, which is when they started to fall behind the curve. Not going to comment on the accuracy, but it makes sense to me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] trustnoone@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago I actually find this interesting, part of me wonders if there technological advancement meant they didn't need to make changes/innovation, which led to others having issues having to innovate beyond what Japan did. Hence why they are still stuck in 2000s permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Gutek8134@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (9 children) Are they still using fax? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] gabelstapler@feddit.org 12 points 1 year ago (3 children) Largest market for fax machines... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children) and floppy discs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not true. Their goverment stopped requiring floppy disks... *checks notes* ...last year! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago im sure its still the biggest market. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Burghler@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago On God. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) There are some things where fax still makes sense. Maybe I'm old, but I'm not a fan of "digital signatures" and "digital seals" for professional licenses. In cases where a document needs to be signed and/or sealed, I would much prefer a fax to a PDF with a "digital seal". But that's just me and I'm a weird dude. Edit: Turns out fax is insecure. Did not know this but it makes sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago Modern PDF signing creates a digital fingerprint showing the device it was used on, whose credentials were used, a timestamp, and even a location if location services are turned on. But yea, I guess all that just can't compete with the ironclad security of a fucking ink pen. Oh, sorry. A copy of an ink pen. So much more secure and traceable. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child) There are some things where fax still makes sense Nope. Fax is insecure, you'd be better off signing w/o a "digital seal" or whatever and emailing it in. You can also print, sign, scan, and send, just like w/ a fax, but send as a PDF instead of insecurely over the telephone wires. I've done both digital signatures and scanned regular signatures, both work and are better than fax. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago I don't use fax... I was not aware that it was insecure but I guess that makes sense. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gabelstapler@feddit.org 12 points 1 year ago (3 children) Largest market for fax machines... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children) and floppy discs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not true. Their goverment stopped requiring floppy disks... *checks notes* ...last year! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago im sure its still the biggest market. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children) and floppy discs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not true. Their goverment stopped requiring floppy disks... *checks notes* ...last year! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago im sure its still the biggest market. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not true. Their goverment stopped requiring floppy disks... *checks notes* ...last year! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago im sure its still the biggest market. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago im sure its still the biggest market. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) There are some things where fax still makes sense. Maybe I'm old, but I'm not a fan of "digital signatures" and "digital seals" for professional licenses. In cases where a document needs to be signed and/or sealed, I would much prefer a fax to a PDF with a "digital seal". But that's just me and I'm a weird dude. Edit: Turns out fax is insecure. Did not know this but it makes sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago Modern PDF signing creates a digital fingerprint showing the device it was used on, whose credentials were used, a timestamp, and even a location if location services are turned on. But yea, I guess all that just can't compete with the ironclad security of a fucking ink pen. Oh, sorry. A copy of an ink pen. So much more secure and traceable. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child) There are some things where fax still makes sense Nope. Fax is insecure, you'd be better off signing w/o a "digital seal" or whatever and emailing it in. You can also print, sign, scan, and send, just like w/ a fax, but send as a PDF instead of insecurely over the telephone wires. I've done both digital signatures and scanned regular signatures, both work and are better than fax. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago I don't use fax... I was not aware that it was insecure but I guess that makes sense. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago Modern PDF signing creates a digital fingerprint showing the device it was used on, whose credentials were used, a timestamp, and even a location if location services are turned on. But yea, I guess all that just can't compete with the ironclad security of a fucking ink pen. Oh, sorry. A copy of an ink pen. So much more secure and traceable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child) There are some things where fax still makes sense Nope. Fax is insecure, you'd be better off signing w/o a "digital seal" or whatever and emailing it in. You can also print, sign, scan, and send, just like w/ a fax, but send as a PDF instead of insecurely over the telephone wires. I've done both digital signatures and scanned regular signatures, both work and are better than fax. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago I don't use fax... I was not aware that it was insecure but I guess that makes sense. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago I don't use fax... I was not aware that it was insecure but I guess that makes sense. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tiramichu@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago Looking back, I think we can say that the year 2000 was a much better time than 2025 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] unresolved@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) what does that even mean? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 year ago I think it means that they were ahead of the curve prior to the year 2000, which is when they started to fall behind the curve. Not going to comment on the accuracy, but it makes sense to me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 year ago I think it means that they were ahead of the curve prior to the year 2000, which is when they started to fall behind the curve. Not going to comment on the accuracy, but it makes sense to me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] trustnoone@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 1 year ago I actually find this interesting, part of me wonders if there technological advancement meant they didn't need to make changes/innovation, which led to others having issues having to innovate beyond what Japan did. Hence why they are still stuck in 2000s permalink fedilink source parent