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please post any subsequent updates here unless they're huge happenings. i just woke up and half our news front page is updates which is nice but also A Lot and most of these don't have to be their own thread

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (27 children)

Swan Lake

If Moscow stations start playing this, it's a probable sign that the Coup is legitimate and the transition has started. Bonkers to think think that in our lifetime we'd see the collapse of a nuclear power. Even if Putin and his government survive this Coup, I don't think he'll have any political capital left to lead. By 8:00pm EDT, we'll have a pretty good idea who's left standing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Hasn't it been stated it's not a coup?

Prigozhin says his aim is "not a military coup but a march for justice" and it comes after a long-running war of words with Russia's military chiefs escalated dramatically.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-60947877

I don't know what the difference between that and a march for justice are though.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

It's down to branding. Prigozhin is framing this as a fight against the military leaders who have deceived Putin and caused him to make mistakes, but he does not blame Putin himself and is leaving room for Putin to change sides.

That framing aside, this is still a coup with the goal of overthrowing gov't leadership by force.

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