FINAL UPDATE
@bdonvr, admin of The Lemmy Club has, in my opinion, responded in good faith to the concerns raised in this post, and so I have withdrawn my proposal for defederation. In summary:
- They will no longer be allowing conservative/right wing communities on their instance
- A couple of accounts were banned ( marathon and Bernard )
- "realcaseyrollins decided to voluntarily close /c/[email protected], /c/[email protected], and /c/[email protected]."
Personally, I think this is just about the ideal outcome, and I hope this will convince folks to give The Lemmy Club another chance.
The Lemmy Club is currently suffering from "The Nazi Bar" problem. All of their top communities are run by three right-wingers as illustrated below.
The Lemmy Club instance admin doesn't seem to want to ban them, for the reasons mentioned below:
This vote is on whether or not we should defederate from this instance until they address their Nazi Bar problem.
Upvote = for defederation. Downvote = against defederation.
Edit: As others have mentioned, happy to treat this a only a temporary measure until the problem is resolved.
Edit 2: The Lemmy Club admin has said they will implement a rule against right wing communities, and has taken action on some problematic posts and users (see original comments below).
I'm willing to extend the benefit of the doubt to the admin here, as they have responded in good faith:
If you implement those changes then I’d be willing to withdraw the defederation proposal and consider the problem resolved.
never heard of the instance before, never seen any of their content or posting. If it's problematic by all means, defederate them, but then i would also think the instance admin would ban them as well.
Otherwise maybe we should watch with apprehension until something happens?
The nazi bar problem is a real problem, but so much as the nazi bar problem is real, there is also the anti-nazi bar. The bar that invents and creates nazis, just to kick them out of the bar, to ensure there are no nazis. It's not really an easy problem to solve.
i'd be more concerned if they were doing the hexbear thing where they started infiltrating other instances and causing problems there. Personally, don't really care if they exist in a vacuum though. Assuming they don't cause any problems.