FINAL UPDATE
@bdonvr, admin of The Lemmy Club has, in my opinion, responded in good faith to the concerns raised in this post, and so I have withdrawn my proposal for defederation. In summary:
- They will no longer be allowing conservative/right wing communities on their instance
- A couple of accounts were banned ( marathon and Bernard )
- "realcaseyrollins decided to voluntarily close /c/[email protected], /c/[email protected], and /c/[email protected]."
Personally, I think this is just about the ideal outcome, and I hope this will convince folks to give The Lemmy Club another chance.
The Lemmy Club is currently suffering from "The Nazi Bar" problem. All of their top communities are run by three right-wingers as illustrated below.
The Lemmy Club instance admin doesn't seem to want to ban them, for the reasons mentioned below:
This vote is on whether or not we should defederate from this instance until they address their Nazi Bar problem.
Upvote = for defederation. Downvote = against defederation.
Edit: As others have mentioned, happy to treat this a only a temporary measure until the problem is resolved.
Edit 2: The Lemmy Club admin has said they will implement a rule against right wing communities, and has taken action on some problematic posts and users (see original comments below).
I'm willing to extend the benefit of the doubt to the admin here, as they have responded in good faith:
If you implement those changes then I’d be willing to withdraw the defederation proposal and consider the problem resolved.
I think the nazi bar analogy is dumb. The story it is based on reminds me of those old facebook memes where the one christian student stands up to their atheist college professor and then everybody claps.
The main reason I think it's dumb though is that the term "nazi" seems to mean a multitude of different things to different people. Then you add to that the instinct people have to hyperbolise online and almost any instance could be a "nazi bar".
What do most people in this thread think lemmy.world is?
Edit:
It took me so long to understand the semantics of the emojis here. Like I thought land lubber might be a new insult that I'd not heard of instead of an instance outsider. I found this thread on all and clicked through without understanding it was an internal instance debate. Apologies for wading into your private debate... idk how private this is but I guess you can't hide threads on activitypub.