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What you call "practical reality" is utilitarian thinking. They're one and the same. Picking a candidate based on lesser of two evils is utilitarian thinking. This is literally undergraduate 100-level ethics.
If you never studied ethics, there are two main branches that ethical systems are often classified by:
Utilitarian - greatest good for the greatest many, ends justifies the means.
Respect for persons - there are some principles you won't violate, full stop.
People have different ethics systems, and you fail to realize that. Then you stamp your feet when someone dares to have a different ethical system from your own.
Some people simply have red lines they will not cross. And it's a damn good thing such people exist. There has to be some people willing to punish Democrats for drifting too far to the right. Otherwise they'll just keep drifting, and you'll end up with an election that's the KKK vs the Aryan Brotherhood. Or the Democrats will be running Mussolini to the Republican's Hitler.
On the other hand, you need some people to vote utilitarian as well. Too many people voting on strict red lines means winning becomes impossible.
It's almost like we live in a diverse society where many viewpoints and backgrounds are beneficial and needed. The Democrats drifted too far to the right, and they were punished by voters who simply would not vote for any pro-genocide candidate. In the values of those voters, you can't excuse your own crimes because your opponent will probably commit worse ones. And that's not some fringe theory; that's how our legal system works. You can't kill someone and claim innocence because the ends justify the means.
You can disagree, it's a free country. I just wish you would demonstrate a little belief in Democracy. Democracy starts with acknowledging we have different opinions and different ethical systems. It doesn't start with stamping your feet and insisting your value system is the only one with any merit. That is the way to dictatorship. That's MAGA thinking.
You do realize none of that matters. One side could be pushed to do the right thing. The other side is actively ignoring judges. You can claim the high road of democracy all the way until it's completely dismantled.
This isn't even a matter of ethics, which I studied, but it's been so long and the real PRACTICAL world has taught more lessons than a fucking ethics class with a professor playing devils advocate. It's a matter of real world happenings and Palestine getting obliterated from the globe because people decided not to "vote for the lesser evil" is something that will happen in the real world.
People voting lesser of two evils is precisely what has gotten us here. You just want to pretend the universe began in 2024.
I understand what you're trying to say, but American politics has always been a two party lesser of two evils voting system. If it was always getting worse, then explain women's rights, civil rights, LGBT+ rights, etc. If voting for the lesser of two evils meant it was always a downward track, then why have we been able to push for good things.
With the dems, we could have at least pushed. There is already a good movement in local and senate for more progressive candidates. That can still spread, but not when one party is unified in completely dismantling the government.
Since you like to read, go ahead and read Project 2025. We are already a good amount through the playbook that was written out. You want to talk about trusting democracy? One of the steps of Project 2025 is issuing Martial law. A step that is just a few steps after "ignore judges", which I remind you is where we currently are. After Martial Law, is establishing authoritarian regime. I hope your trust in democracy can prevail a literal authoritarian.
It's not always getting worse. It's that things only get better if you have consistent pressure from the left to force Democrats to get better. The pressure to cave to corporate centrism is always there. You have to have some correcting mechanism, otherwise the party will just drift further right. This mechanism has existed for decades and it has served, and continues to serve, to keep the Democrats from decaying further towards conservatism.
Yes, obviously Project 2025 exists. There's no need to gleefully trot out all the horrible things Trump is doing. Obviously he's doing bad things. The problem with Democrats is they think that because Republicans are going to do awful things, that gives them a blank check to do anything they want. They can do any evil they want, just as long as they're a little bit better than the Republican.
And you mention LGBT rights. The same centrist Dems who cited LGBT rights as a reason to throw Palestinians under the bus are now advocating for throwing trans people under the bus. It turns out, when you're willing to sacrifice one minority group to the fire, then you'll be willing to do it again. They justified letting the Palestinians burn in order to protect the queer and trans people. Now they're justifying letting trans people burn, because in the name of the greater good, we have to make sure to protect everyone else.
Centrist Dems are the "first they came for..." poem in human form.
That IS the banality of evil that poem warns about. At every stage of fascist empowerment, a lesser of two evils argument can be made for letting one minority group or another have its rights taken away. Pretty soon all the minority groups are dead, because at every stage you thought sacrificing them made sense for the greater good.