They sell things that come in cups, or with napkins. Lots of people cycle/run/walk here instead of driving, seems pretty stupid.

Taking away the bins doesn't mean you don't produce rubbish....

Edit: I think there is still a bin IN the cafe, but most people eat/drink outside. Lots of people asking staff where the bins are. Still hypocritical I think though? (And still mildly infuriating to remove well used bins!)

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[–] 21 points 2 years ago* (12 children)

This has been happening in New Zealand for a while. The theory seems to be that bins attract more litter and are a hazard to wildlife.

I was sceptical at first but it actually seems to work.

Perturbs me that they are selling food though. Surely yhe food sellers should have bins for which they are responsible in their immediate vicinity.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    I don't think it works. I think the resulting litter is just more distributed and therefore harder to register. Instead of an overflowing trash can, it's a napkin here, a cup there, and a lot of it ends up eaten by wildlife or in waterways so not very visible.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Idk, it looks like it works (or maybe people are just getting better at not littering and it correlates), but this is one of those things that can be measured so I'd trust department of conservation research over my own anecdotal evidence.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (7 children)

    No, a lot of people are actual decent human beings and understand the simple concept of packing out your own garbage.

    If someone sees a full garbage, they aren’t suddenly going to become a decent person, no they add to the pile making it worse. Don’t give them that option, and well most people actually turn decent. Since to throw it on the ground and get caught is different than just “adding to the pile”. It’s amazing what a little public embarrassment can fix.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (6 children)

    Or just...actually empty the bins?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    And what if someone decides to empty their garbage from their vehicle filling it up and now it’s not being emptied until the next morning?

    I’m guessing you would want someone standing there to empty it the second it gets full….?

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Well first of all, yes.

    Second, pretty sure that's "dumping" and not legal, so record their license plate and send em a fine.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Using a public bin to empty your vehicle is illegal? That’s what the bins are for dude. Wow, you really have no clue about any of this do you?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Depends on your locality but yeah, if you fill up a public bin with trash that can be illegal. You'll figure out things like that one day, when you grow up.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago

    A public bin is for exactly that, public trash.

    You’re not confusing private dumpsters are you? They all have signs that state it’s illegal, since… well that’s illegal. If the random public cans don’t have that sign…. Guess what, it’s not illegal!

    But obviously taking an entire truck beds worth wouldn’t jive, since it wouldn’t fit anyways…,

    You'll figure out things like that one day, when you grow up.

    I’ve got it figured, you’re the one talking out your ass here and have shown you have zero understanding of how quite honestly anything works.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    How do trash cans attract more litter?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    I don't know. I haven't seen the research.

    I was alarmed by it at first but it's been a few years now and the parks where I go which used to have them don't seem any more littered fwiw. If anything less so.

    But that's anecdotal and as I understand it the decision was made based on more than that.

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