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I apologize if this is old news, but I just noticed it. It looks like Kagi has added Fediverse Forums as a default Web search option.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I’ve been using Kagi for about a month now, and I think I’m gonna stick with it. Paying with dollars instead of data/attention feels more healthy for everyone involved.

(Fully realizing, of course, that there’s nothing stopping them from doing both, and that’s why we need better laws. Voting with your wallet will never be a complete solution… but it is something I can do right now.)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Since they implemented privacy pass, there is now something stopping them from doing both. See https://help.kagi.com/kagi/privacy/privacy-pass.html

Obviously with it you trade the need to trust them for your own personalization (as they can't know it was you searching).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Funny how the tech space is hyped up about privacy pass when Kagi implemented it, but got outraged when Cloudflare worked with Apple to try to use it as a CAPTCHA alternative.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't know the details, so maybe there is a reason, but I am not part of the "outraged" crowd. I think kagi use case is neat and innovative, bot protection is meh

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Oh, that wasn't a dig at you! I just find it entertaining how the same technology with the same risks and impact on the future web are treated completely differently based on what company puts their name on the blog post.

FWIW both use cases seem good to me, Kagi's for using the privacy enhancing properties and Cloudflare's for decreasing the need for their CAPTCHA/bot blocking software to be cranked up to the level it's at now. For now only Safari and Kagi's addons are using the tech (Cloudflare turned off their experiment) so there's no reason to be bothered at the moment anyway.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A very reassuring technology to have!

But my worry was more about them changing their business model once they get big enough.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

I think their customer base is basically 90% made of people that - like me - would quit in a second.

Good thing is that there is no vendor lock, it would be a shame, but changing search engine is quite simple.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

I have been on it for about a year and I have no complaints.