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[–] 17 points 2 years ago (12 children)

The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that patriotism is the love of one's country and nationalism is the belief that one's country is superior above all others.

Fascism is a centralized government underneath the authority of a dictator.

It's obvious that these guys want a nationalist and fascist government.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago* (11 children)

    Well that's not the definition of fascism at all.

    https://youtu.be/5Luu1Beb8ng

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    Good lord, you said nuh uh and linked a 20 minute video with no explanation. Congrats

    lazy transcript of intro copy/paste.

    fascism is a term i've heard thrown around since i was a kid but most of the time idiomatically fascist is what you called your type a passive-aggressive roommate stop being such a fascist deborah through osmosis i knew its literal meaning was among a cluster of related words authoritarianism totalitarianism white supremacy nationalism dictatorship but for much of my life if you pressed me to define any of these words i could have only said you know nazis hitler the gestapo you know nazis this colloquializing of fascism and its association with the cultural shorthand for pure evil makes it very hard to discuss as an ideology because even using the word fascism sounds both hyperbolic and like a punch below the belt to call a person group or idea fascist is to exaggerate for the purpose of dragging them this counter-intuitively prevents us from criticizing fascist groups even though most everyone agrees fascism is terrible because saying it you sound ridiculous you're talking about indiana jones villains so i'm going to be using the word fascism kind of a lot in this video hoping that we can semantically satiate it just enough that it's connotative meanings irreverent sarcasm and the envisioning of stormtroopers are dulled to the point that we can talk about fascism as a system of beliefs and as a mode of political organizing and about who practices it today our work necessitates a conversation about fascism specifically white fascism, fascism fascism fascism

    Is there like a direct point you're trying to highlight for the class? It's honestly weird seeing "White Fascism", like... just the distinguishing 'white' term and making 'white fascism' seem more important than just regular ol 'fascism' makes this feel like a whole other level of racism/white superiority that blows my mind.

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  • [+] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)
  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Ty, wasn't trying to dispute correctness, just they never actually defined or tried to give a clear explanation (besides a 20min video not everyone is going to watch). As we've seen it's a simple definition but even the video points out it's more complicated because of how people are using it, highlighting just how important it is to make direct and concise declarations of what we're talking about so there is no confusion.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    You see you say it's a simple definition but both this and your later comment are rather imprecise or even wrong, such as when you say it's described as the union of corporations and the state, but that has almost nothing to do with, hence I would implore you to watch the video I linked.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (3 children)

    The commenter I replied to clearly only mentioned Fascism in one sentence and described something that's not the definition of fascism, the video is long and precise about what it is, specifically describes the aspects of the fascism white people tend to create.

    Not sure what your issue is with the white qualifier it's rather clear what it means, video is 20 minutes long and very educational about what constitutes fascism and how to spot it developing, in fact the whole video series he has about is very good, if you want to, learn, if you don't, continue making upset comments on the internet.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    lol we're getting into oxymoron territory with your use of "long and precise". Again, you aren't defining fascism and getting on multiple people about being wrong. It's rather comedic at this point and you keep pointing to a 20minute video for a "definition". You're disputing terms while declaring someone needs to watch a whole video series instead of.... defining or saying what constitutes fascism.

    If you can't clearly state for everyone wtf you're talking about specifically, I doubt the video helped at all and you're just tripling down on trying to be snooty.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    You can doubt all you want, it's not easy to define what exactly fascism is, because it has many things it involves, but that's literally spelled out for you at the start of the video you seem bent on not watching.

    But if you want the precise and short wording then it's: palingenetic ultranationalism, hope that helped.

    Or here are 14 common traits of fascism by a political scientist, that identifies fascism, I dare you to define that shit in some nice non-run-on sentence

    https://osbcontent.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/PC-00466.pdf

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