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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/26777465

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago (4 children)

This has some corrections on the details of the graphic: https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/07/29/kkk-mount-rushmore/

Was some discussion about it in the other thread: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/7163539

The general spirit of the graphic is true about the US (ex: stealing land, being genocidal, white supremacy involved indirectly in the form of the views of the person who spearheaded the Rushmore project), but I suggest people read up on the details more before you go quoting them at others as they are in the graphic, which could just undermine the point you're trying to make.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago

I agree, communists must always cite their sources, Marxism-Leninism is a science after all.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He was a white supremacist who said, "I would not trust an Indian, off-hand, 9 out of 10," and wrote, "All immigrants are undesirable," even though his father was a Danish immigrant. He also took great pride in his Norse heritage, according to his writings.

What a fucking loser. I wonder if people pointed out the hypocracies back then. They probably did.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

I wonder if people pointed out the hypocracies back then. They probably did.

I hope so. It's also stark to me how similar it is to the stuff going on today. Shows how little the US has actually changed regarding racism.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Nothing in that disclaims the meme. It's actually worse.

"At the federal level, there really was no reason to pay soldiers bounties for killing Indians. That was their job."

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Nothing in that disclaims the meme.

It does on parts of it if you read and compare on the details. For example, according to its sources, the claim about the KKK having a hand in funding Mt Rushmore is false. And the thing about $300 per bounty is probably also a wrong number, as well as the timing of it. As I stated, "The general spirit of the graphic is true about the US," but there's no reason to pretend the graphic is saying it all correct on the details if it's not, especially for what appears to have been a viral facebook meme (which are not exactly known for strict diligence in facts). That's just cannon fodder to get mocked by people who don't want to listen to any of it. And I will say I was myself too quick to take it all at face value until I was corrected. It may be that the truth of it would be considered worse and if so, that's all the more reason to make sure we're using the correct details, since the alternative would be inadvertently downplaying the reality.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Excellent corrections I think!

The loss of the six grand fathers is such an insult also ... casual erasure of a whole people ...