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Around the world, progressive parties have come to see tight immigration restrictions as unnecessary, even cruel. What if they’re actually the only way for progressivism to flourish?

That the era of low immigration was also the era of progressive triumph is no coincidence. [...] The United States felt more like a cohesive nation to many voters, with higher levels of social trust and national pride, and politicians were able to enact higher taxes on the rich and new benefits like Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

Sounds like theyre winning by giving voters what they want. Voters want social benefits, they do not want immigration, simple as. Concerns over immigration have got to the point in some countries where people are voting for conservative parties because they promise less immigration, or just to not let criminals walk the streets, even though they like other left policies.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

The new deal era welfare programs were dismantled during the civil rights era using racism as an excuse, and now that same progress has been pointed to by right-wingers as the cause of all our woes. They got rid of our social safety net because they didn't want "undesirables" to have access. By retreating on the immigration issue for the sake of rebuilding the social safety net those countries are giving the racists what they wanted all along, and they won't stop at immigrants.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The thing is, the criminals are not walking the streets. Crime rates are actually much lower than ever before in western nations and no, the remaining crime is not done by immigrants to a higher degree than one would expect compared to similar groups in the native population either (e.g. young native men vs. young immigrant men).

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, as the article says, for some reason that is not true in Europe.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

It actually is true here in Europe. Crime rates are much lower in e.g. Germany before 2015 when we took in a big wave of immigrants.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago

Likely a greater degree of difficulty blending into the society in question.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 hours ago

How come it's always nazi apologists with these takes..

Ok big brain - who's gonna provide those social benefits in a country with an aging population and no immigration?

This sounds like the whole Brexit thing where folk voted to keep immigrants out and were then shocked when social services went even more to shit when they realized half of NHS staff were foreigners...

If you were arguing to solve global inequality and climate change by dismantling western imperialism and by radically reducing their material consumption so that people didn't need to emigrate - then we would agree - but your current stance just sounds like social security for me but not for thee..

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

Ah yes, let's outnazis the nazis. That will teach them.