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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Pretty much all the major EU economies are in recession, and Germany in particular is doing terribly. If German economy crashes then the rest of EU follows. And no, industry shutting down is not exaggerated. Deindustrialization is now a term that even entered mainstream parlance. It's simply not possible for EU to be competitive in any sort of manufacturing given the energy prices in Europe.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Germany is in a technical recession, but france, Italy, Spain are not (yet). Don't get me wrong. I think it is very likely a recession might come, but as far as I can see it is not there yet.

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documents/2995521/17254747/2-31072023-BP-EN.pdf/998638f3-f643-aa29-a170-ba1d34da7858

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Eurozone PMI is below 50 which is a sign of economic contraction, we can debate whether this constitutes a recession currently, but I see no reason why the current trajectory would change going forward

https://www.fibre2fashion.com/news/textile-news/eurozone-s-manufacturing-pmi-plummets-to-43-4-in-jun-2023-288648-newsdetails.htm

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, many signs are pointing down and I won't be surprised if we get a recession here. But until it's definitely there I will wait.

As for this indicator. Never heard of it, but there seem so many of those that I wouldn't trust them unconditionally. This one for example points up:

https://www.tagesschau.de/wirtschaft/unternehmen/industrie-auftragseingaenge-deutschland-staerkter-auftragsplus-seit-drei-jahren-100.html

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