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It’s reported that people believe Apple did things, never with any actual, you know, proof.
The biggest problems either performance with old phones is that folks don’t understand how batteries degrade over time and attribute that to some sort of malice from companies like Apple.
I’m all for complaining about the dangers of unfettered capitalism, but stupid Apple conspiracy theories make yall look silly.
Batterygate: This issue gained significant attention in 2017 when Apple admitted to throttling the performance of older iPhones with degraded batteries, beginning with iOS 10.2.1 and iOS 11.2. This, Apple said, was intended to prevent unexpected shutdowns caused by aging batteries, not to drain the battery itself. The more cynical took it to be a deliberate action to encourage upgrading (and to enhance the perception of upgrading) by crippling their product.
Their original letter is no longer available on Apple’s site so here’s a link to a Reddit post about it. https://www.reddit.com/r/applehelp/comments/bdv3zk/comment/el126j7/
I had one of those old phones and it was preferable to have slower performance overall as opposed to seemingly random shutdowns. In reality the shutdowns were directly related to when the cpu was drawing more current than the battery could provide often on websites that had tons of client side scripting.
So before the update I’d be browsing the web and my shit would just shut off and after it would run little slower but stay on.
Iirc they ended up improving the battery management software so it would maximize battery life and suggest when it was time to have it replaced.
This is 100% right. Shocked you aren’t being down voted into oblivion for not jumping on the anti Apple circle jerk.
“the more cynical” is a really positive spin on conspiracy theory nut jobs.
Apple only throttled CPU speeds on batteries that were below a certain threshold to avoid them crashing when they couldn’t provide the necessary power from the battery. Replace the battery, which Apple would do for effectively cost, and the CPU throttle goes away.
This was a measure to make phones keep working longer instead of forcing folks to buy a new one. Quite the opposite of the claims here.
Samsung throttled their phones from the start, for the same reason, but would increase CPU speeds to cheat at benchmark tests and lie about the capabilities of their phones. Where are the lame memes regarding them?
Here is a link to back my claims, because I don’t just spout nonsense.
https://www.theregister.com/2013/07/31/samsung_found_cheating_in_benchmark_tests/
Apple claims that now, after initially denying that they throttled phones for years, and then only announcing that they actually were when they add a toggle to turn it off. Also, they settled a lawsuit paying over 100MM dollars, which shows that their actions were anti-consumer.
And sure, Samsung is equally as ass as Apple. That's why I don't use their phones, feel the need to defend their shitty actions, or pretend like they can be trusted when they promise they weren't fucking over their customers.
Here's my link to support what I've said, but I'd highly recommend you look into a situation a bit before starting an argument about it, it's just common courtesy.
https://www.npr.org/2020/11/18/936268845/apple-agrees-to-pay-113-million-to-settle-batterygate-case-over-iphone-slowdowns
Who the hell is talking about Samsung? We all know Samsung enshittifies in different ways to Apple. I know it's easier to pretend that all criticism comes from Samsung fanboys but the reason Apple gets it is 1) because it's the most successful and most prominently greedy phone manufacturer and 2) because of how annoyingly cultish their consumers are.
Source: apple says so (but only once they were pressured for years). No conflict of interest there.
Pretty sure in this case Apple straight up admitted it, that's pretty damning proof
Admitted to intentionally causing batteries to drain faster?
I’m sure you have a link to an official Apple statement that proves the claim.
My memory failed me, it was actually intentionally making your phone slower and less performant in phones of the previous generations: https://support.apple.com/en-us/101575
But the result is the same. Upgrade or we'll make your phone awful to use. In that statement, they are really trying to make it sound like it's a good thing for the user, but up until they started doing that, batteries not "supplying enough peak power" was never an issue, and isn't an issue on any android phone. I had friends with iPhones that were 5 years old that worked perfectly fine before the update, that basically became unusable after the software update.