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Network States - Is this where we're headed? (www.youtube.com)

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Observing what is currently happening in the US has led me down the Network State rabbit hole. The linked video is a great place to start if you're not already aware of these ideas.

Unfortunately these concepts seem to be cosied up to modern fascism/monarchism, but I do wonder if this is genuinely the likeliest alternative to modern day capitalism. Yanis Varoufakis' idea of technofeudalism seems like another way of viewing this.

Could greener, more altruistic network states co-exist with money and power hungry billionaire-led communities? Or would their greed and ambition be detrimental to the efforts of those trying to save the natural earth?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago (13 children)

Could greener, more altruistic network states co-exist with money and power hungry billionaire-led communities?

Not peacefully, that's for sure. I think that touches on a problem humans have always had. Imagine 10 separate societies existed. If only one was a warmonger, while the other nine sought peace, then all ten need to behave like that one asshole or they'll be conquered eventually.

That's why I don't see how peaceful, green societies could live alongside rapicious capitalist monarchies. Actually I'm pretty sure that played out a couple times already, and that's why things are the way they are.

What kind of political/state environment would these network states exist within, if any? That could allow for different types of relations between network states, but coexistence between states with such different goals seems difficult.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Very interesting discussion, thanks both!

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