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I read the article. I often find both participating in social justice spheres and arguing with non-vegans becomes frustrating for these very reasons. Often while veganism comes up I find the same people who have been harping on and on about the current virtue signaling cause turn on a dime and suddenly start cracking jokes about 'muh burger' or making erroneously claims that we need to eat meat because of 'muh protein'
I think it's just the lack of curiosity that gets to me. The sort of people who 'will try anything' but won't try a vegan burger (or will try one and decide they've tried them all). People who have no background in nutrition but outright assert things like 'lentils just aren't sufficient for protein' on no evidence. And when you give a contesting viewpoint, like 'eggs are actually terrible for you because of their cholesterol,' they're not interested in finding out the truth, they act as if nutrition as a science is just some 'agree to disagree' type thing and use justifications like 'humans are omnivores' as a wall from caring. These are the sort of people who if born into a pro-slavery society would definitely be slavers..
Though I am vegan for the animals, I usually try to engage with people on the basis of nutrition for this very reason, to break down their cognitive dissonance. But I have to say it drives me up a wall the way people seem to associate my 400+ expertise in evidence-based nutrition as equivalent to someone who follows a fad diet, or something.
My favourite one is where the person you know who drinks at least 4 beers a day and smokes weed round the clock seems overly fixated on the protein issue. Even putting aside the actual facts. (You can absolutely get enough protein from a vegan diet; there are professional bodybuilders who are vegan.) This person fundamentally doesnt care about health issues. They care about justifying their burger and their unwillingness to examine their engagement with evil.