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    [–] [email protected] 39 points 3 weeks ago (17 children)

    It certainly sounds like wayland is just about ripe. Any DE recommendations for a lifelong XFCE enjoyer like myself?

    [–] [email protected] 64 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

    KDE. It's working very well with Wayland. I've been using both on my daily driver for a year now and it's come a long way since then. It was still a bit rough in the beginning but now I can't see myself going back. It's pretty polished.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    I'm not a Linux noob, but I've been out of the scene for a few years.

    Recently tried debian with KDE and Wayland on a modern PC with a 3060. Just a default install.

    My mouse could barely track across the screen, it was very choppy and stuttered like crazy.

    This was in the last 6 months. I got it fixed by switching to a different compositor, but I shouldn't have had to do that. Even then I found YouTube to be super laggy.

    It's just not ready.

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    well it's again more about nvidia driver for wayland u need manually do some tweaks such as https://github.com/CachyOS/CachyOS-Settings/blob/master/usr/lib/modprobe.d/nvidia.conf

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    I'm glad there are ways to get it working, and thank you for sharing it, but this doesn't qualify as "it just works, why are you idiots not switching from Windows when Linux just works".

    This is directly why a lot of people don't take the arguments that Linux is ready for the average user seriously.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    Yea like I said I'm not a total noob. I have built my own Linux From Scratch distro which is something I think most of the users on here would struggle with. All I'm saying is that it's not a totally smooth and hiccup free experience for normal people. I'm a grown man now and sometimes I just want shit to work cause I only have like an hour to game in the evening.

    I will try Linux again for my daily driver once Win10 support is gone but I will likely try something other than Debian as others have suggested. Something more gaming centric.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

    opensuse leap has those settings by default. and people say it's not beginner friendly..

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

    I had the exact same experience with Debian. The thing is, Debian is so many versions behind, it's really no surprise that you thought it wasn't ready yet. Try a less "stable" distro, you'll be surprised.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    i am a Linux noob. i installed debian KDE wayland with an Nvidia card just like you.

    i experienced similar issues. i couldn't set my refresh rate above 60Hz, my screen was really dim and stuttering, and video playback was lagging. worst of all my Minecraft framerate was abysmal! (<20fps default settings)

    i read the dang wiki and got everything running smoothly in an afternoon

    it's ready as fuck

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

    i read the dang wiki and got everything running smoothly in an afternoon

    that means it's not ready...

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

    Yes I'm also capable of reading the wiki but it did nothing to help me.

    My point stands that it's not "ready" for the average person. This is a Linux community of course people here know how to troubleshoot and get shit working.

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