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Thoughts on KagiHQ? Is it worth paying for a search engine? (lemm.ee)

submitted 23 hours ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Basically the title. There are other privacy focused+free search engines, such as duckduckgo, startpage and brave search. What makes Kagi worth the $10/month?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I used to but people behind are bastards so I don't give money to them anymore.

It made me think of how I use search engines and most of the time I go on the same websites so I try to avoid search engines.

I use Mojeek with their focus feature (it is like lenses of Kagi). If I really need a search engine I use Mojeek with no focus, but most of the time the results are not good enough so I give them a feedback and go back on Duckduckgo.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

Why are they bastards ? I am using Orion for some of my web browsing which is a Kagi product.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

They keep expanding their partnership with Yandex, which is a company tightly integrated with Kremlin

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

On the Orion forums their staff consistently bullies people around

[–] [email protected] 9 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Kinda long to read : https://d-shoot.net/kagi.html

[–] [email protected] 10 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

TLDR:

Spent a third of their initial funding on buying a small clothing factory to give away free shirts to the first 20k subscribers (Noble act from them imo, but financially irresponsible to buy a factory for this)
Didn't pay taxes in the first 2 years (Apparently under 1000 users they don't need to do taxes or sm and haven't expected 20k users)
CEO (Vlad) thinks AI can give you unbiased reviews
Author finds AI tools bullshit and Kagi is doing and planning a lot of AI related stuffs
CEO is very opinionated and thinks that difference in opinions are "misunderstandings"
CEO personally writes emails to unsubscribed people about why they have left
Doesn't have GDPR cause CEO thinks email isn't a personally identifiable information

Probably I have forgot some stuff, but this is the gist of it for me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 43 minutes ago

Also, from the same source - a dismissive attitude to privacy (which is kind of a big deal if all your searches are tied to a single account, usually paid by a KYC method).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago

Will take a read thx !

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

Thx for sharing. I do (happily) use Kagi as already stated in my other comment but I'm always willing to be more informed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago

Curious abt this too