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[+] 40 points 2 years ago (26 children)
  • [+] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (24 children)
  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (23 children)

    Completely fair - do you have a counterargument? I'd be interested in hearing the other side.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (22 children)

    Constantly talking about race makes race a topical issue.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (17 children)

    As in

    • Not talking about race will solve the lingering systemic race issues, or
    • There are no lingering systemic race issues, so we should stop talking about it?
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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    Not OP, but keep seeing the world as if it is “us vs them” or “black vs white” or “right vs left” or “rich vs poor” will not help find common ground and compromises. There is no compromise for racism, but people putting more attention on it will only promote looking at the situation in a way where the difference matters.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (14 children)

    Oh no the US is a shitshow of systemic racism, like super ridiculous on every level. There is such a wild undercurrent, surface levek and then an even weirder like super liminal racism where it just has to be mentioned.

    Watch like any late night and they will make a self depricating white person joke, middle aged white guy thing. Just stfu about all of it, address the systemic issues with actual actions and then just you know...live as neighbours as americans.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (13 children)

    So the US is a shitshow of systemic racism but you want everyone to stop talking about race? Sounds like a way to never fix the problem.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    Yeah I want everyone to stop thinking that making jokes about white people's potato salad being lacking in flavour and thinking it is 1. Funny and 2. Making any fucking difference other than highlighting differences. Black people can swim and have small dicks, white people can dance. The pop culture racism is boring and part of the problem.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (11 children)

    Why are you talking about white people jokes when I'm talking about systemic oppression.

    We were talking about systemic racism. A thing that ruins lives, not bad jokes.

    You get how you can't solve racism without discussing race right?

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    Well for one, america has never shut up about racism and to go with that...things have not got better. It is literally legal to have slaves as long as you incarcerate them first.

    Its like these people protesting at the moment, everyone is posting a catching sign. Why the fuck is everyone not just stopping work, just not participating? Because you cant monetise or grow your image that way. Americans want to be seen to care about race, to protest to blah blah blah. But when push comes to shove, ye vote for greed or complacency.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    Things have not gotten better, seriously? Weird, I don't see KKK members hanging people from trees anymore...

    Why isn't everyone just stopping work? You must have a great life, because a lot of people live pay check to pay check and are just trying to survive. Protesting by not working could make them miss rent and be on the street. Do you seriously not understand that concept?

    The country was basically split on the vote and there was only 2 real options. What would you have suggested people did when it came time to vote? Throw their hands up and quit?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (8 children)

    Things have not gotten better, seriously? Weird, I don't see KKK members hanging people from trees anymore...

    Yeah...they just shoot up schools or use no knock warrants on the wrong house. Kill lads for carrying skittles or being out for a run. Sorry, the metbod has changed, that much is true.

    Why isn't everyone just stopping work? You must have a great life, because a lot of people live pay check to pay check and are just trying to survive. Protesting by not working could make them miss rent and be on the street. Do you seriously not understand that concept?

    Yeah I have a good life, precisely because we as a work force are engaged and act as one. We also have a non shithole country where you cant just be kicked out of your home, even if its for missing rent.

    The country was basically split on the vote and there was only 2 real options. What would you have suggested people did when it came time to vote? Throw their hands up and quit

    Be engaged and demand progressive politicians, not goplite. A third of america didnt even vote. Sppit down the middle with nazis, bleh and meh.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Jesus, so many bad faith arguments. The KKK hanging black people in trees is not even remotely related to school shootings. Jesus, you are reaching just to fit some crazy native you have in your head.

    Demand progressive politicians? Ok, cool, and now come back to reality and what do we do when we demand those politicians and no one runs or they go unheard? Just cry and complain about how doomed we are? You want this make believe option that wasn't even a choice, and for everyone to really behind it. Wake up.

    You're so full of hate and don't know how to process your emotions and this is what happens. You speculate wildly and make grand statements with no idea how they would even happen.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    My comments werent to say the two were directly related, just that there are still instances of public murder in the US. I'm not at all full of hate, I just think the US is ridiculous with their passionate platitudes ( "This isnt Us") and then they elect nazis (it absolutely is ye) and still manage to feel superior.

    The american exceptionalism has walked the population off a cliff because everyone was all too happy to be told how great they are instead of keeping up with global progress. See the below for a no exhaustive list:

    infant mortality

    Maternity leave

    Employment rights

    Incarcerated civilians

    Incarcerated non civilians

    National debt

    Average lifespan

    Number of billionaires

    Number of homeless

    ...

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (5 children)

    I just think the US is ridiculous with their passionate platitudes ( "This isnt Us") and then they elect nazis (it absolutely is ye) and still manage to feel superior.

    Well one problem would be thinking everyone in the US is the same. Not everyone voted for him, not everyone wants this.

    Yes the US has a ton of problems, yes idiots are voting against their own self interest, but that's not what the country is comprised entirely of. A lot of people did the best they could given their situation, a lot of people didn't. But we can't paint them all with the same brush stroke.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (4 children)

    I feel like we can at this stage, he was elected twice. The second time with greater support. All other branches have followed suit. The market leaders capitulate. Its great that AOC and Sanders exist but its hardly indicative of any greater shift in thenpolitical landscape...given the two party system has kept Sanders at arms length for decades and AOC has been brushed aside wherever possible.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (3 children)

    Well if you think a leader being elected means everyone wants that leader then there's not much of a conversation to be had, because that's simply not true. Never has that been true throughout history.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    Yeah yeah this is more of the same bs, "not my president". I never thought that, I don't think every NK supports Kim but relations should not be normalised while he is there.

    Americans love slogans and this is the perfect out, rather than actually fucking engaging and making a difference. Too busy lapping up shit and thinking of funny signs to hold up at the next stop te genocide rally.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Wow, dismissive of people's efforts and non-stop insulting. Sounds like you're not just ignorant, but full of misguided hate. I'm doing with this nonsense, stay angry.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Im not at all angry, or hateful for that matter. It seems that was a fallback for you, and so many of your kind but Im neither of those things.

    For decades people have spoken about America's growing fascism. For decades the people dismissed it. There you go, enjoy. Try not fuck the world on your way down.

    Even if I was hateful, it would be far from misguided, the US is exactly as deserving of all the issues they are facing.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    If racism still exists race still needs to be talked about....

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Right. Its going so well for you guys so far, remind me again which breed of nazis are in power, and whicj programs they are focusing on destroying?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    So you are going to act like everyone in America is the exact same. With the same views? Did you miss the election where roughly half of the country didn't want this or are you just lashing out because your stance was questioned.

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