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Just block the communities when you see them. I never see them, and I only had to block a few. I had not seen them breaking any rules, aside from maybe brigading. Haven’t seen them being bigots or anything. They’re just confused edgy western kids cheering for Russia and pretending they like communism from their shiny new iPhones.
People are also pretending to oppose slavery from their shiny new iPhones.
The slavery that’s happening in “communist” china.
I'm just saying that the iPhone "argument" is so lame. Everybody here uses electronics that use cobalt mined by child slaves in Africa. We still can, and should, point out the atrocities caused by the current system and fight for a better future.
The point is:
China and Russia aren’t communist.
Russia is right wing oil oligarchy ran by nationalists billionaires who hang out on yachts in western ports, with open conquest and old school style colonialist ambitions throughout the world.
China is basically a giga-corporatocracy with companies traded on NYSE, that does massive amounts of business with the largest American hyper capitalist corporations the planet has ever seen. They abandoned their core communist policies decades ago. They’re about as communist/socialist as North Korea is a republic. And they’ve only ventured further and further since.
Anyone who pretends to be pro communist, and also pro Russia or China is not really an ideologue, but simply anti western edgy hypocrites.
And yes, these edgy kids could totally move to those counties. And yes, you can avoid being a hyper consumer in the western world. You can avoid buying new iPhones and cheap disposable items made by slaves.
The average western moderate capitalist isn’t pretending to be capitalist. They simply are capitalist.
Someone pretending to be pro communist and also pro Russia and China is indeed pretty sad. I think we mostly agree.
The iPhone comment was not too serious. The people I see on lemmygrad come off as larpers, edgy upper middle class, highly educated, college paid for by their parents, yuppies, who are fashionably contrarian, not workers union members. And I understand that it’s ok to be a socialist and still succeed in a capitalist world. But these people are not socialist. They have no ideology aside from hating nato and hating the west, even when the hyper capitalist members of CSTO is invading a sovereign country, and destroying entire cities.
I know you didn't ask for my glittering social commentary, but your point is looking at it from the wrong angle:
Shiny new iPhones and loud, shittily tuned cars are status symbols in Russia as well. In Russia's slums, you will often see people pay their groceries using their brand new iPhone so they can flex and pretend and then they'll return to their desolate apartment with broken furniture and dishes, rusted water pipes and a dirty, fucking mattress.
People will rather cheap out on essentials and make their life miserable than to let go of their idolized brands that help them to pretend their life choices were perfect.
And why should any serious instance ever want to connect to that? It's not only individual communities (where blocking makes sense), it's the whole instance.
Why should we censor them? They aren’t breaking any typical universal internet rules.
If you want to block on mass anyone you find annoying, go for it. But don't assume that everyone else wants to create an an echochamber of like-minded people, especially not on an instance-wide level some admin making the decision on behalf of everyone.
That's not your decision to make for everyone else who comes here for access.
If you want an instance that defederates on political grounds, start one yourself.
Admin fixed it :)