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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's interesting because it also showed the hypocrisy of most western governments. On one side these governments were happy to support and in fact rushed to support ukraine. On the other side, the same was not afforded to palestine, in fact the opposite. (Giving aid to israel, etc)

This includes people too, but its been very clear with governments.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

it was right and good to support Ukraine, but i think where the buck stopped for so many countries is Ukrainians are white and Palestinians are brown. sure, in western countries we often strip Ukrainians access to the concepts of whiteness when they have aid needs other than weaponry, but they still get at least some access to the power of whiteness in colonialism when it suits whiteness. Palestinians, no such luck

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There is also a lot about who their enemy is. When US will attack Mexico or Canada, there will be way less universal support to them because US is still seen as a "good guy" in a cultural sense. The same goes to Israel for historical reasons. Russia however is universally understood to be bad, they didn't manage to wash their reputation when they had a chance, and it doesn't seem like they really tried.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Cultural sense is relative. Quite a few cultures understand the US being one of the greatest evils in the world.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Im not sure many see the US as the good guy anymore. I think maybe they see the US as the shallow, bullying, good looking popular kid with a lot of money, who the other kids who just want to keep their heads down follow by default.

So much of politics resmbles the 3rd grade school yard.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

To be honest, Russia-Ukraine's war is at EU's doorstep, meanwhile Israel-Palestine's war is in middle east. I think that's at least one reason.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

To say that they would care about the other more, sure. To say they continue their support of israels genocide? No.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If Ukraine started the war by invading and killing 1000 Russian civilians (and making sure to record lots of video of it), they probably would've gotten a lot less support too.

It would be interesting to see what would've happened if Israel just straight up invaded Gaza with no provocation. I doubt western governments would've sent weapons to Hamas, but I do think Israel would've been roundly criticized and aid cut off.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago

Yes, because the Palestinians started everything on oct 7th, not the fact they've been ethnically cleansed for the past 80 years. Not the fact that Israelis have been systemically killing them and taking their land for the past 80 years. This hypocrisy is not new, but it become apparent to a lot more people who didn't know about it before.

Israel has invaded Palestinian land in the past with no provocation, I mean, thats how the state of israel was created...

Western countries rarely actually care about justice. Usually its a political tool they use to their advantage, never against themselves or their allies.