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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

Again, I never said "polls are meaningless." I said "poll bumps all presidents have after an election resulting in a transfer of power are meaningless in reference to policy approval."

But look back at your own link. His approval rating is already slipping back. Less than a month ago he was at +8.2 and now he's at +5.3. And it will only accelerate as his policy sinks in. Also wild that you think +8.2 approval could mean that anyone is "very satisfied." But, whatever.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Trump has been at the center stage of American politics since 2016. Normally when you are there you lose political capital over time. The fact that Trump's approval and favorability rating is at the highest after 8 years is ridiculously amazing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

You heard it folks. People temporarily like trump a tiny bit more than they hate him and that's ridiculously amazing. The bar is in hell.

It didn't used to be normal that politicians were so hated and its weird to act like we should be happy about a politician most poeple hate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Times have changed. In 1984 Reagan won all states except one. The political landscape is very different now. I don't see how anyone be able to do something similar no matter how good of a politician that person is.

To have the highest approval rating after 8 years at the center stage of American politics is amazing. Can you name a few who managed to do that?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Its not the highest. Its +5.3 when it was +8.2 a few werks ago. And its amazing you're still trying to do so many mental gymnastics to brag about a temporary +8.2 approval rating.

I could probably go through the data and find someone with better approval at one point after years of being in politics. Hell, I'm pretty sure Bidens approval after being elected after being vp for 8 years and then on the campaign trail another 4 years was higher than +8.2 direactly after he was elected. But the premise of bragging about a temporary +8.2 approval rating is so stupid I'm not going to bother to make a real comparison and entertain it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Did you pay attention to the details? There was one poll that was a clear outlier. Perhaps you purposely choose not to see that...

Anyway, nobody cares about VP. It is so ridiculous for you to bring this up knowing VP really doesn't do much. I suppose you don't have any better example. That proves my point.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Im sorry, do we trust 538s polling average you cited again or not? I honestly can't keep up with your gymnastics. What citations would you like to cherry pick again?

Ahh right. Being VP isn't center stage but checks notes being nothing for 4 years still constitutes as center stage. Got it. You should try out for the Olympics.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Did you read the whole conversation chain? Someone cited 538 but the link was not correct. I responded with the correct 538 link. 538 has its issues so it is certainly not my favorite. In the past 4 years, Trump was the unquestionable leader of the GOP party, far more influential than another else to the GOP. Was Biden the leader of the Democratic party when he was the VP. Clearly no, not even close. He wasn't even top 3 in terms of people most influential to the Democratic party.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

I used your specific 538 source ya goober. You can't give a source and then cherry pick what i should read from it.

I heard didly from Trump for years until he started campaigning again. The GOP establishment turned their back on him after he lost the 2020 election. But sure. Unquestionable leader.

But you're really just going to make up whatever definitions that suits your narrative. Trump was the unquestionable leader after he became a pariah but the VP is not at the center of politics at all. Absolutely wild assertions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Again, I wasn't the one using 538. I just put in the correct link since the person initially provided the 538 source didn't provide the correct link. It was clear from the conversation. Not sure what is your problem.

It is ridiculous to say you didn't hear from Trump for years. Did you live in the middle of nowhere with no Internet access? LOL

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

No. I just don't use truth social. And for 2.5 years after the 2020 election I didn't hear anything about trump and it was glorious. And I pay attention to politics.

P.s. your real clear polling link has trump doing worse that 538, so maybe you should just stick to 538.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 56 minutes ago

I never used truth social either. He has been all over the news throughout the 4 years.

538 weights the polls but with liberal biased. RealClearPolitics doesn't weight their polls, but you need to look carefully at the outliers.

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