▲ 626 ▼ Trump's second term is a 'billionaire feeding frenzy', says AOC (www.independent.co.uk) submitted 2 years ago by xc2215x@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 56 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] cdf12345@lemm.ee 165 points 2 years ago (21 children) It’s worth watching the whole video, AOC is the type of politician that actually has a chance to have a party that represents the working class. permalink fedilink source hideshow 25 child comments replies: [–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 90 points 2 years ago (4 children) I hope the Democrats can figure out before the last minute that she's a really viable candidate for President. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 70 points 2 years ago (7 children) Most D's are captured by most of the same corporations and oligarchs as the R's. They will never allow a working class movement. Only corporate-whore lite. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) If so, they are in for hard wake-up call. Most corporations/oligarchs are rapidly shifting their allegiance to Trump. Those sweet donations will stop flowing to Dems. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Perhaps this is one of the reasons why the Dems are also shifting right: to capture back corporate donors, instead of listening to the wants and needs of their base. Welcome to Democratic neoliberalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Yes I think that’s possible, but it’s a strategy that will surely fail. They cannot very well pass the GOP on the right, and they cannot out-Trump Trump. The 2024 election has shown that there were insufficient moderate voters. The upcoming cycle will teach the Dems that there are now also insufficient moderate donors. Only chance to win is to go towards economic populism, and with Trumps billionaire cabinet it has never been easier. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 8 points 2 years ago The leadership doesn't care, they're already set. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (6 replies) [–] moon@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) When he encountered maize for the first time, he thought it incredibly corny. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AngryMob@lemmy.one 5 points 2 years ago Maybe. Republicans don't have this issue though, it sorta remains to be seen for dems. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Elon_Musk@lemm.ee 21 points 2 years ago My micropenis submarine has already banned AOC from X.com because I saved drowning underaged malaysian soccer players from the pedos in the so-called british special forces. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Auli@lemmy.ca -5 points 2 years ago (3 children) No she's not. She is a women and Americans well not vote for a woman for president. Sorry it is the truth and they have to stop doing that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 9 points 2 years ago Find me a woman who isn't a center-right politician who has ever run. People didn't vote for women because the women who ran are assholes permalink fedilink source parent [–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago Hillary Clinton won the popular vote. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago Stop trying to play the gender card. We refuse to vote for a female president that legislates like a male neoliberal. They dont get preferential treatment because they are a woman. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 49 points 2 years ago (3 children) At this point I'm concerned for her safety. She's one of our last hopes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) If it was Russia, she would have already fell out of a window. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 2 years ago We're probably not far behind, considering most of our top officials are obviously Russian assets. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Can private security be crowdfunded? /s A lot of others "losing" secret service protection is quite a clue to how the new regime expects violence and intimidation to be enacted. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Auli@lemmy.ca -10 points 2 years ago Really? I mean she might be great but she is a women. America choose trump over a women. If the Dems run a women again then they deserve to loose again. They you and me might be fine with a women president but America is not. permalink fedilink source parent [+] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 7 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] flowque@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago (3 children) Saying "proof" is not enough here. Can you elaborate? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago You're asking for proof of billionaire political capture? How about superdelegates, or the billionaires on stage at the DNC, or the Democrats bending the knee to AIPAC by pushing out AOC? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* A "young" 74 year old with throat cancer permalink fedilink source parent [–] nomy@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're asking for proof that billionaires control everything? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago Oh yes, here comes the billionaire controlling what I write here: Ni! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) She's in a tough spot because she dislikes a lot of what the Democratic party is doing and also refuses to even meet with lobbyists let alone take their money. To a ton of everyday people these are very good things but to either of the parties this is an enemy to the party that doesn't have the firepower to win an election. Of course, I would absolutely love to be wrong on this but history (especially recently) is not on her side. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 years ago In the 2020 primary Bernie and Warren were regularly leading in donations. And in 2016 and 2024 Trump won despite raising less money throughout most of the campaign. Big money is not the be all and end all of politics, and when people believe in a candidate large sums can be raised. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (17 replies)
[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 90 points 2 years ago (4 children) I hope the Democrats can figure out before the last minute that she's a really viable candidate for President. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 70 points 2 years ago (7 children) Most D's are captured by most of the same corporations and oligarchs as the R's. They will never allow a working class movement. Only corporate-whore lite. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) If so, they are in for hard wake-up call. Most corporations/oligarchs are rapidly shifting their allegiance to Trump. Those sweet donations will stop flowing to Dems. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Perhaps this is one of the reasons why the Dems are also shifting right: to capture back corporate donors, instead of listening to the wants and needs of their base. Welcome to Democratic neoliberalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Yes I think that’s possible, but it’s a strategy that will surely fail. They cannot very well pass the GOP on the right, and they cannot out-Trump Trump. The 2024 election has shown that there were insufficient moderate voters. The upcoming cycle will teach the Dems that there are now also insufficient moderate donors. Only chance to win is to go towards economic populism, and with Trumps billionaire cabinet it has never been easier. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 8 points 2 years ago The leadership doesn't care, they're already set. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (6 replies) [–] moon@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) When he encountered maize for the first time, he thought it incredibly corny. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AngryMob@lemmy.one 5 points 2 years ago Maybe. Republicans don't have this issue though, it sorta remains to be seen for dems. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Elon_Musk@lemm.ee 21 points 2 years ago My micropenis submarine has already banned AOC from X.com because I saved drowning underaged malaysian soccer players from the pedos in the so-called british special forces. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Auli@lemmy.ca -5 points 2 years ago (3 children) No she's not. She is a women and Americans well not vote for a woman for president. Sorry it is the truth and they have to stop doing that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 9 points 2 years ago Find me a woman who isn't a center-right politician who has ever run. People didn't vote for women because the women who ran are assholes permalink fedilink source parent [–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago Hillary Clinton won the popular vote. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago Stop trying to play the gender card. We refuse to vote for a female president that legislates like a male neoliberal. They dont get preferential treatment because they are a woman. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 70 points 2 years ago (7 children) Most D's are captured by most of the same corporations and oligarchs as the R's. They will never allow a working class movement. Only corporate-whore lite. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) If so, they are in for hard wake-up call. Most corporations/oligarchs are rapidly shifting their allegiance to Trump. Those sweet donations will stop flowing to Dems. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Perhaps this is one of the reasons why the Dems are also shifting right: to capture back corporate donors, instead of listening to the wants and needs of their base. Welcome to Democratic neoliberalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Yes I think that’s possible, but it’s a strategy that will surely fail. They cannot very well pass the GOP on the right, and they cannot out-Trump Trump. The 2024 election has shown that there were insufficient moderate voters. The upcoming cycle will teach the Dems that there are now also insufficient moderate donors. Only chance to win is to go towards economic populism, and with Trumps billionaire cabinet it has never been easier. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 8 points 2 years ago The leadership doesn't care, they're already set. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (6 replies)
[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) If so, they are in for hard wake-up call. Most corporations/oligarchs are rapidly shifting their allegiance to Trump. Those sweet donations will stop flowing to Dems. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Perhaps this is one of the reasons why the Dems are also shifting right: to capture back corporate donors, instead of listening to the wants and needs of their base. Welcome to Democratic neoliberalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Yes I think that’s possible, but it’s a strategy that will surely fail. They cannot very well pass the GOP on the right, and they cannot out-Trump Trump. The 2024 election has shown that there were insufficient moderate voters. The upcoming cycle will teach the Dems that there are now also insufficient moderate donors. Only chance to win is to go towards economic populism, and with Trumps billionaire cabinet it has never been easier. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 8 points 2 years ago The leadership doesn't care, they're already set. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Perhaps this is one of the reasons why the Dems are also shifting right: to capture back corporate donors, instead of listening to the wants and needs of their base. Welcome to Democratic neoliberalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Yes I think that’s possible, but it’s a strategy that will surely fail. They cannot very well pass the GOP on the right, and they cannot out-Trump Trump. The 2024 election has shown that there were insufficient moderate voters. The upcoming cycle will teach the Dems that there are now also insufficient moderate donors. Only chance to win is to go towards economic populism, and with Trumps billionaire cabinet it has never been easier. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Yes I think that’s possible, but it’s a strategy that will surely fail. They cannot very well pass the GOP on the right, and they cannot out-Trump Trump. The 2024 election has shown that there were insufficient moderate voters. The upcoming cycle will teach the Dems that there are now also insufficient moderate donors. Only chance to win is to go towards economic populism, and with Trumps billionaire cabinet it has never been easier. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 8 points 2 years ago The leadership doesn't care, they're already set. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] moon@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) When he encountered maize for the first time, he thought it incredibly corny. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AngryMob@lemmy.one 5 points 2 years ago Maybe. Republicans don't have this issue though, it sorta remains to be seen for dems. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AngryMob@lemmy.one 5 points 2 years ago Maybe. Republicans don't have this issue though, it sorta remains to be seen for dems. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AngryMob@lemmy.one 5 points 2 years ago Maybe. Republicans don't have this issue though, it sorta remains to be seen for dems. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Elon_Musk@lemm.ee 21 points 2 years ago My micropenis submarine has already banned AOC from X.com because I saved drowning underaged malaysian soccer players from the pedos in the so-called british special forces. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Auli@lemmy.ca -5 points 2 years ago (3 children) No she's not. She is a women and Americans well not vote for a woman for president. Sorry it is the truth and they have to stop doing that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 9 points 2 years ago Find me a woman who isn't a center-right politician who has ever run. People didn't vote for women because the women who ran are assholes permalink fedilink source parent [–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago Hillary Clinton won the popular vote. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago Stop trying to play the gender card. We refuse to vote for a female president that legislates like a male neoliberal. They dont get preferential treatment because they are a woman. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 9 points 2 years ago Find me a woman who isn't a center-right politician who has ever run. People didn't vote for women because the women who ran are assholes permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago Hillary Clinton won the popular vote. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago Stop trying to play the gender card. We refuse to vote for a female president that legislates like a male neoliberal. They dont get preferential treatment because they are a woman. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 49 points 2 years ago (3 children) At this point I'm concerned for her safety. She's one of our last hopes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) If it was Russia, she would have already fell out of a window. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 2 years ago We're probably not far behind, considering most of our top officials are obviously Russian assets. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Can private security be crowdfunded? /s A lot of others "losing" secret service protection is quite a clue to how the new regime expects violence and intimidation to be enacted. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Auli@lemmy.ca -10 points 2 years ago Really? I mean she might be great but she is a women. America choose trump over a women. If the Dems run a women again then they deserve to loose again. They you and me might be fine with a women president but America is not. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) If it was Russia, she would have already fell out of a window. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 2 years ago We're probably not far behind, considering most of our top officials are obviously Russian assets. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 2 years ago We're probably not far behind, considering most of our top officials are obviously Russian assets. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Can private security be crowdfunded? /s A lot of others "losing" secret service protection is quite a clue to how the new regime expects violence and intimidation to be enacted. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Auli@lemmy.ca -10 points 2 years ago Really? I mean she might be great but she is a women. America choose trump over a women. If the Dems run a women again then they deserve to loose again. They you and me might be fine with a women president but America is not. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 7 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] flowque@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago (3 children) Saying "proof" is not enough here. Can you elaborate? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago You're asking for proof of billionaire political capture? How about superdelegates, or the billionaires on stage at the DNC, or the Democrats bending the knee to AIPAC by pushing out AOC? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* A "young" 74 year old with throat cancer permalink fedilink source parent [–] nomy@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're asking for proof that billionaires control everything? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago Oh yes, here comes the billionaire controlling what I write here: Ni! permalink fedilink source parent
[+] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 7 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] flowque@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago (3 children) Saying "proof" is not enough here. Can you elaborate? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago You're asking for proof of billionaire political capture? How about superdelegates, or the billionaires on stage at the DNC, or the Democrats bending the knee to AIPAC by pushing out AOC? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* A "young" 74 year old with throat cancer permalink fedilink source parent [–] nomy@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're asking for proof that billionaires control everything? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago Oh yes, here comes the billionaire controlling what I write here: Ni! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago You're asking for proof of billionaire political capture? How about superdelegates, or the billionaires on stage at the DNC, or the Democrats bending the knee to AIPAC by pushing out AOC? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* A "young" 74 year old with throat cancer permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're asking for proof that billionaires control everything? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago Oh yes, here comes the billionaire controlling what I write here: Ni! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago Oh yes, here comes the billionaire controlling what I write here: Ni! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) She's in a tough spot because she dislikes a lot of what the Democratic party is doing and also refuses to even meet with lobbyists let alone take their money. To a ton of everyday people these are very good things but to either of the parties this is an enemy to the party that doesn't have the firepower to win an election. Of course, I would absolutely love to be wrong on this but history (especially recently) is not on her side. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 years ago In the 2020 primary Bernie and Warren were regularly leading in donations. And in 2016 and 2024 Trump won despite raising less money throughout most of the campaign. Big money is not the be all and end all of politics, and when people believe in a candidate large sums can be raised. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 years ago In the 2020 primary Bernie and Warren were regularly leading in donations. And in 2016 and 2024 Trump won despite raising less money throughout most of the campaign. Big money is not the be all and end all of politics, and when people believe in a candidate large sums can be raised. permalink fedilink source parent