IceFoxX comments on Based Red Dead

[–] IceFoxX@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (11 children)

No, I'm just saying what I wrote. It is not meant to be an equality or anything else but just a statement that it is good without any slavery no matter what origin, skin color and (even if I am an atheist and despise any religion) religious affiliation. It was also not referring to Americans but a general statement.

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[–] threeganzi@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Sure, but the image is about a game taking place in American history. I agree that no slavery is good but you comment doesn’t add much to the historical context. If anything removes nuance.

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[–] IceFoxX@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

Would be good without modern slavery right? Penal labor. But well affected are black white whatever.
But I could have expressed myself more directly

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 7 points 2 years ago

There is a certain type of whataboutism where people are just super eager to remind people that "well, actually, white people were slaves too" when referring to slavery in America. It's likely why they appear to be more on guard about what you're saying.

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[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (7 children)

what is it that drives the desperate need you have to bring it up in this context?

the vast majority of people who know history know about indentured servitude. but it's a footnote compared the the millions of people systematically stolen (not indentured, note), taken to another part of the planet and bred for labor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_slaves_myth

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[–] IceFoxX@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Yes ok then say that you are happy that slavery of black people has stopped and that you don't care about any other form of slavery. < That's what the statement suggests because you're not talking about slavery in general but explicitly about black slaves...

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[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (5 children)

that’s what the statement suggests because you’re not talking about slavery in general but explicitly about black slaves…

pfft that's the most 13-year old racist edgelord shit I've heard in ages.

No, that's not what that says, you silly twat, lol... ok so there's this thing called context. And the context in which slavery was introduced, in this thread, was regarding the protagonist in the game going after slavery supporters.

AND YOU HAD TO FUCKIN' CHIME IN BUT BUT NOT ALL SLAVES-

motherfucking couldn't resist the urge. So answer the fucking question: what is it, inside you, that is so desperate that you need to reply with that specious bullshit?

TAKEN IN THE CONTEXT OF RDR2, the history of the US, it's referring to the human stain of racists enslaving black people for their entire lives, and the lives of their children in perpetuity. a very different thing compared to what irish indentured servants experienced.

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[–] IceFoxX@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (4 children)

The nice thing is that even population groups elsewhere on earth who never had anything to do with slavery condemn all slavery and also that it is good if slavery is generally ended. Without differentiating whether black or white because slavery is to be despised whether black or white. Do you think a black slave would have sought a difference to a white slave and vice versa? No...after all, both would have experienced the same fate... It is those who are not affected who want to differentiate as if one slavery is worse than the other... those who are affected would not do that...

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[+] Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

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[–] IceFoxX@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Another example:
It's like a Nazi meme saying it's good that >Jewish< genocide has stopped... But that implies that any other genocide is of no interest and will not be criticized.

But yes defend your rassist hateful shit point telling other then black slavery is ok!

According to Grice's "maxim of quantity". Would that apply to black before the word slavery. The detail is already too much and says even more.

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[+] Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

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[–] IceFoxX@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Far far away. It says what it says. America shits on human rights etc and loves slavery.... but demonizes pure black slavery because of racism but not because of slavery itself which America is loving. Typical American: Down with the people and their rights! Slavery slavery slavery slavery!!! America First!!!

As an illegal immigrant with origins in Europe. It is precisely these illegal immigrants who want to take action against illegal immigrants today. You can't do this shitshow America to yourself. America stands for nothing other than criminal illegal immigrants who glorify slavery

Native Americans should kick out the illegal immigrants called nazimericans as soon as possible. But then comes the double standard about them not being illegal immigrants these murderers rapists and all; this is America! Psychopaths! Fck nazimerica

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