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The admin of sh.itjust.works has been approached but as of yet has failed to reply to concerned Lemmy users. I’m glad Beehaw admins look out for us by cutting off instances that host communities like this.
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This is really a microcosm of the problem of "free speech communities." They wind up being infested with trolls and Nazis.
The only plausible reasoning for the admin not banning this community is they don't mind it. Glad Beehaw is not federated with a place like that.
Yep, and we have literal decades of evidence to show that Every. Single. Internet. Community. - whether it's forums, blog comments, newsgroups, etc. - will always descend into a Nazi-filled hellhole without moderation or content guidelines.
And you really nailed it. It's always a bad faith front. The people pushing for this "free speech" shit want that kind of community
Sometimes I wonder if the early version of the internet (the one that millenials grew up with) were too accepting of the "online edgelord" mentality. You know, the people who don't believe their own words, just spouting stuff because it makes them look edgy and cool. Like, I know a younger me thought being edgy was cool, and I took that version of myself to online spaces - it wasn't shut down like it should've been. However, I did end up growing out of it, only to realize my old friends never did. Even in their 30's they still act like "top kek memelords" and are some of the saddest and loneliest people I know.
It kinda made me realize that "grown up people" online need to NOT put up with that crap. Like, zero tolerance, "Oh, your being an edge lord today? Temp ban - come back when you grow up".
These same people, that were my friends back in high-school days often feel "persecuted" when they can't be an edgelord anymore. After all, it was just SO NORMAL before. "It's just a joke bro!". And now every time they interact with society it's through a lens of persecution because they can't be as edgy as they want anymore.
THEN it get's to bad faith bullshit as external bad actors feed the narrative that they "get" to be an edgelord and that's what freedom of speech means - which then becomes a slide into alt-right and incel territory.
It's exhausting, and honestly, I have a bit of myself to blame here - when I was more accepting of that type of behavior rather than pushing back on it. I even think that extends to the larger millenial cohort as well. We just kind of "accepted" 4-chan and the trash that came out of it for so long that many just feel entitled to be an edgelord these days.
It's always a joke until it's not anymore. It's why places like 4chan led to the creation of QAnon and real-world white supremacist terrorism. Even on sh.itjust.works, the mod of the Trump community insists it's all just "ironic". But I've heard that before and it never stays that way.
I had always heard that supposedly the original r/t_d started as a joke, and we all know how that ended up.
Poe's Law ruins everything
"Any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe that they're in good company."