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In an unexpected mask off "secure" email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton's services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let's collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here ๐Ÿ”๐Ÿ‘‡

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

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[โ€“] [email protected] 22 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I've said it in another thread: German users should consider posteo as a green, safe, and affordable (1โ‚ฌ/M) alternative. https://posteo.de/de

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago

I use and like posteo but their refusal to allow custom domain names, for in my opinion dubious reasons, should not go unmentioned.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Never used it. Is there a reason why you mention German users, in specific?

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago

No, anyone can use it, payed plans only though (1โ‚ฌ p month min)

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

It's not limited to German users, but those might be especially inclined since it's a Berlin-based company ๐Ÿ™‚

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

I would actually argue that for privacy reasons when choosing an email provider you should go for one outside of the country you live in, even better go for one in a country that wouldn't comply with your country's court requests for data.

Edit: ac corrected actually to factually lol

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Wouldn't a provider that doesn't comply with my country, instead comply with a lot more shady entities requests?

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Shady entities outside your own country maybe. But shouldn't you be more worried about the ones in your own country?

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

My country is not yet under fascist control. I hope it stays that way.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 32 minutes ago

Same tbh but if something DOES happen - I think zone.ee is more likely to respond to some Estonian org's threats than Hetzner - and I think Zone would also likely become a target first.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

I see, thank you!