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My thoughts on veganism
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this post was submitted on 01 Jan 2025
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You don't, but it's not healthy(I'm talking about not eating even fish or milk) and humans ALWAYS historically had balanced diet of both since you simply can't get something which is exclusive to meat from a plant, includes vitamins, calcium etc. You should be embarrassed just like the others like you who force this shit onto people and act like you have some high ground, it's a choice, plain and simple. There's a lot of things to be angry about in the world and natural eating diets, omnivores and carnivores aren't one of them.
And don't eat Venus Flytrap by any chance, it's carnivorous.
You should stop embarrassing yourself as you have clearly no idea about what you're talking about.
It is healthy and sustainable. There is multiple meta-studies confirming it and many gouvernemental associations of dietetics and nutritions say so, here is one such example.
You are the one forcing your "lifestyle" on sentient beings just because you enjoy it. Stop for 2 minutes and think what your behavior actually entails and what this means for your moral system.
Its clear you have no idea about what you're talking about when you say that calcium is something you can only find in sufficient quantities in animal products. Stop typing like a toddler and go educate yourself.
Or do you seriously hold the position that milk from another mammal is necessary to the survival of humans despite the vast majority of them being intolerant to it ?
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10027313/
I never saw anyone forcing diets onto people more than vegans, not even ultra religious people who feast(because even Jesus said to them that humans can eat everything), I knew few vegetarians who never even mentioned this stuff on regular basis to people, because that wasn't their entire personality and I respect it. But vegans specifically do, stealing people's chickens, letting them in wild(which results in them getting eaten by fox immediately), vandalizing, lecturing people, moralizing, annoying people en masse, barging into farms on villages and destroying people's jobs which is how they make a living etc, no one does this shit.
No one is forcing you to eat meat, or fish, or eggs, or even milk for that matter, you're the ones who force this shit and sound EXACTLY like this guy:
I never thought that there would be a situation where I would get vegan lecturing on Lemmy of all places.
I do, I understand basic biology and the fact that humans are OMNIVORES, and milk is healthy, what even is the problem with fucking MILK? You don't even have to kill and cook anything to get it. You're not going to change the food chain and diet of an entire species lasting tens of thousands to millions of years by doing this.
If you ever come or pass in Balkans, I'm legitimately asking you to try this here.
lmao I’ve visited the balkans many times, namely Bosnia and Croatia and never had any issues with being a vegan. You do realize there are vegans in the balkans right? Most people I met there were way more understanding of it than you seem to be, but I guess you think your region would beat up people for disagreeing. Sorry to disappoint you but your region is better than you.
All you do is weak appeals to nature and you even tried to justify your shitty view by invoking Jesus lmao.
You’re the one coming into a post specifically asking about how vegan communists could get together and antagonizing people, who is the one stirring shit up? I guess for you the only people that are nice are the people that don’t speak up about things they believe in. Are you a fucking centrist lib? "The only leftists I like are the ones that shut up about it" is a lib take comrade.
To educate you on milk as you apparently have never thought about how milk is produced, you do realize that mammals only produce milk when they have a baby right? Here’s how milk is produced in our society:
Killing is most of the process of producing milk. If you gave me the choice between being a dairy cow or a meat cow, I’d choose being a meat cow anyday of the week as at least the suffering would be lessened.
Well you certainly met some polite people and didn't bother them like you do it online, because here where I live specifically, this shit is not tolerated, of course you can be, it's your choice and no one would like beat you up because of it if you thought that, but to start to moralize and constantly bother other people with this is not allowed. You're definitely polite irl and don't act like those lunatics who barge into restaurants, harass people and steal their animals. There are vegans here but they are in minority as they are everywhere else.
I just mentioned ultra religious people because they can be some of the most annoying people imaginable, yet even they don't do this and don't come on this level. I didn't mention to appeal to anything, just to show how far vegans can go when they surpass even them.
This is the general consensus you'll get here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/serbia/comments/u0ekxo/what_do_serbians_think_about_vegetarianism/
I just said that I don't get it, I literally never said that I would like to do it. But most vegans seem to assume that all people want to start to eat only grass so badly and automatically assumed that I wanted it to when I never said that. You're not going to transform the food chain and diet of entire human race just because you dislike meat, we're omnivores and if you like taking pills or whatnot later in life because of teeth problems, I'm not the one to judge. Go against slaughterhouses and fast food companies which are inhumane and are consequences of capitalism, but leave normal people and farmers tf alone.
Guess what, my grandparents didn't send animals to slaughterhouses and didn't participate in it, they were just normal farmers as are most people from villages here and my uncle is a hunter, not a poacher who kills hundreds of members of near extinct species. If you cared so much about nature you'd know that plants are also living things, yet you eat them? Wait, even some plants are carnivorous.
And of course, a certain Austrian painter was a vegan later in his life, is he by any chance better than 99% of human population which eats meat just because of it? So if you're going to equate eating a fish or drinking milk with blowing up a building full of innocent civilians, don't do it with other people. Communism is a political ideology and being vegan is dietary choice, a communist shouldn't give a shit if someone is vegan/vegetarian or not and certainly not try to brainwash people into it.
I don't really care to step into this back and forth as a whole, but Hitler wasn't vegan or vegetarian. He just liked dogs. That was a lie made up by Goebbels to make him seem more sympathetic and his private chefs admit to making meat for him regularly.
Not before the war, during.
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