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On the anniversary of the Dobbs decision, 53% say abortion access nationwide has become too difficult, a new NBC News poll finds.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

True. Roe should've never happened, it needs to be decided by the states.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Roe should've never happened, it needs to be decided by the states.

Do you feel the same way about slavery?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah, unrelated issues, stop conflating.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah, [slavery and abortion bans are] unrelated issues, stop conflating.

They are related in that both legalized slavery and abortion bans are examples of regional legislative causes of needless human suffering. Furthermore, it's many of the same states doing it. How much suffering should we allow states to inflict on their residents before the Federal government intervenes? What's your metric here?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wish you could share that sentiment with someone that actually was a slave.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I wish you could share that sentiment with someone that actually was a slave.

  1. I absolutely could. Read the 13th amendment carefully: "except as a criminal punishment."

  2. You didn't answer my question. I will repeat it: How much suffering should we allow states to inflict on their residents before the Federal government should intervene? Given that fetuses are incapable of sentience/suffering before 24 weeks, why should we allow states to make women and children needlessly suffer by forcing women to give birth against their will? Help us understand your point of view.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If we don’t pass laws at the federal level, the southern states would still have slavery. These types of federal decisions push the entire nation forward. Leaving it to states is a cop out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bless your heart..you have no idea.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

My government teacher in rural Missouri was literally a neo-confederate with posters of Confederate generals on the wall, who taught that Lincoln was an evil tyrant and that the Civil War had nothing to do with slavery.

Forgive me if my view on the South's ability to protect human rights is limited.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck the states. My state would not have let me marry my wife if the federal government didn't force them to. My brother is gay, he'd be doing hard labor in prison for that if my state had its way.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Centralized power is a bad thing. You will understand this when a group takes over that you are not aligned with.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I mean, states rights led to the civil war, right? All those men's lives they threw away, for the right to rob others men of their freedom and dignity. Good riddance

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I agree. That's the whole premise of federation. It's the whole premise of the US.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Your rights should not be dependent on what state you reside in. It's asinine to think that people who have the same citizenship you do deserve to have more or fewer rights than you just because of arbitrarily drawn lines on a map.