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Those evil socialists are hiding their homeless in homes (lemmy.ml)

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

They have more than enough homes, they just chose to pursue a system that doesn't make homes and homeless meet.

This is demonstratably false. China has one of the highest home ownership rates in the world, at ~90%. The US is at ~66% for comparison (and most of that isn't actually full ownership, but a debt to mortgage brokers).

Why do you white supremacists think its okay to spout any unsourced nonsense because it fits your racist biases?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

This link does not disprove the point. Home ownership isn't the same thing, you can have families that rent, they aren't homeless either.

Using the same source there is twice as many homeless (relative to population) in china than in spain, for example.

I'm not trying to prove that the number is high in China, I don't know what's the average for all countries. However, claiming that there isn't a lot of homeless because 90% of the non homeless own their house is wrong.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The source for that appears to be this article from 2011 : https://web.archive.org/web/20160930015343/http://gbtimes.com/life/homelessness-china

Most of the poverty alleviation campaigns were well underway by 2012, so I'd be interested to see what those numbers are now.

But also, China is responsible for ~3/4ths of the reduction in world poverty via these campaigns.

Not to mention that if you've visited any Chinese city in the past few years, you won't see any of the slums or homeless that you see in the neoliberal countries.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I just used the same source out of simplicity, I didn't double check as that wasn't my point. It would indeed be better to have more recent numbers.

Not seeing homeless people doesn't mean they don't exist, seems like Japanese streets are mostly devoid of homeless people, but a lot of people seem to be living in cafes, to avoid ending up in jail as as far as I've understood, the government has a harsh policy towards that. Might be wrong on japan, but again, I'm not trying to point fingers to a country saying they are bad or good, it's the argument itself that I find "weak".

PS: just to be clear, I do feel that first of all, the OP should be the one trying to prove their saying. Nice of you to try and debunk it though