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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

When the right wing voters didn't like what their elected leader were doing, they primaried them with more ideologically pure leaders.

I've been thinking the same thing. The current form of the Republican party that is MAGA is clearly influenced by the Tea Party movement. The Wikipedia entry say the movement dissolved and doesn't say what legacy it left. But in hindsight, it is clear that it made the Republican party evolve into MAGA that it is today.

The Democratic Party should have its own MAGA movement but from the left. The American left only seem to be animated if the candidate or leader is deemed progressive enough. They don't seem to actively try to influence the Democratic Party themselves unlike what the right did to the Republican Party.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The tea party was astroturfed. There's no wealthy PACs propping up a movement of soc dems like AOC

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't know. It's not directed at you but I think anyone who disagrees with a movement would always find ways and angles to smear it.

Nonetheless, many of what had been advocated by the Tea Party movement-- both social and economic policies-- are still visibly present and implemented by MAGA. So I think even with astroturfing, the goals of those involved in Tea Party had their way.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

even with astroturfing

That's basically the point though, right? Without astroturfing the tea party probably wouldn't have grown into maga. Compare the occupy wall st movement (as mentioned below)-- there was no corporate backing so it fizzled as soon as popular support couldn't sustain it. But money kept pumping into the tea party and it eventually metastasized into maga.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

What I find hilarious is that every "progressive" leader that does make their way in ends up being a Republican/Russian puppet. (See Sinema/Fetterman).

Proves horseshoe theory is real. The DNC doesn't care about you guys because you've shown you don't care about the DNC. Bitch all you want but why should they try to pursue lazy kids who bitch and moan but don't vote when it counts or protest vote.

That's why the DNC drives further right because at least that voting base actually consistently votes.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Growing up with these movements, it felt like the Occupy Movement could have been that, but it was smeared by The Powers That Be alongside infighting or a focus on strange parliamentary procedure. It helps with cops also are on your side (Tea Party).

I don’t think the left makes enough persistent noise at their leadership compared to the right. I’m really proud of the recent strike announcements from Unions & hope they stick through the tough shit.

I volunteer in municipal work on a town board local to me. It’s not much, but there’s a few chuckleheads “from the private sector” that think they know everything in five minutes. If you put hard facts and actually argue them in proper settings with conviction, you can at least have a voice in the bullshit around you.