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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

1915 Lemmy lib: "God the German propaganda on .ml is intense"

The propaganda: Peace pls yes-honey-left

Any info I encounter contrary to the interests of my preferred empire must be the work of the dastardly Foreigner. If the other side wanted peace they should simply unconditionally surrender imaginator (skull can barely contain brain of this size)

And if they won't, ~~we~~ Ukrainians must be willing to give up their lives in a total war until victory (which is going well and good and can be expected to end in that outcome)

Russia's terms have been quite clear since the beginning of the war: a neutral, non-West-aligned Ukraine and the official ceding of Crimea and the breakaway republics. Even regardless of how you feel about those issues, how does it benefit you or the average Ukrainian to keep fighting over this? It is such a pointless, devastating loss of life over shit that obviously represents larger geopolitical issues for the West and Russia while Ukraine is turned into a literal wasteland (omg and the Ukrainian side has been financed by massive Western loans doomer, even if Ukraine "wins" they are gonna be fucked when the creditors come for their repayments after the war which is intentional ofc, will probably result in even more IMF austerity plans and poverty)

Idk, maybe the Ukrainian side could get better terms (they def could have earlier) but they have just refused to actually negotiate (beyond telling the world how "open" they to are it lol) and have taken your total victory position. Ofc there is so much more to say but yeh