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The establishment consists of both democrats and republicans. These establishment politicians are more alike than they are different. They pretend to be diametrically opposed to each other each election cycle in front of the public, but behind closed doors, they are essentially the same party. Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders are not establishment, and this sends fear to the establishment. There is a difference between policy regarding the public, and policy among themselves, as the elite. It is elites versus the public. Democracy and transparency is just an illusion that the voter has to a certain extent. Just like how far left and far right form their own echo chambers and herd think, so it can happen across party lines. Democrat and republican is just a label. What gives a distinction is the fundamentals, and fundamentally, elites form a consensus, and follow it. That is why, they are the same. Instead of new ideas forming all the time from different, and fresh perspectives, this elite community, talk about the same issues, over, and over, and over again, each election cycle. Whatever new issues come up, are not important issues that affect most people, or requires a drastic attention. The politics becomes unhinged, monotone, and disconnected. That is why non-establishment candidates like Donald Trump, and Bernie Sanders have become more popular. The elites, as you can term them, the Deep State, are losing their control over the public. You can hear them talking about censorship, because the narrative is getting harder to control. It isn't just in the US, Europe, too. Europeans view Trump as a rogue president who will put a wedge between them instead of the deep relationship they formed with the American establishment. That is because, Trump is fundamentally different. Trump pushes back, and that is a problem. Look at Joe Biden, for instance. He has been in politics for decades by practicing demagoguery, radicalism, to build his political capital, and voting for every war. He could be an exemplar model of incompetence of having civilians in politics. Needless to say, the public isn't buying it anymore.