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Edit: Here’s a link to what is most likely the real manifesto: https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/luigis-manifesto

Ken Klippenstein is a very reliable journalist and this version of the manifesto contains the snippets that have been released by law enforcement. Also, considering the thing was hand-written, that very long version involving his mom is dubious. (And there’s not any good evidence that his mom is in anything besides decent/good health)

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Interesting article and yeah, a lot of mass shootings in the US were in some way related to the shooters wanting to go out with fame.

Luigi showed a new kind of fame. To be clear, I'm all against any form of violence, I want it avoided whenever and wherever possible. Having said that, I am very much reminded of this little comic I saw yesterday

boy talking to CEO

I detest violence, I detest murder. But if murder do happen, I prefer to see single greedy CEO's killed a hundred times over all those school children.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I'm all against any form of violence, I want it avoided whenever and wherever possible

The universal motivator for any kind of social improvement should be just that. Suffering breeds violence, whether out of a desperate need to survive, spiteful desire to pay back the pain done to them or a helpless need to reach out somehow for lack of a healthier way to cope. It's not the only reason for violence, but it's one, and to reduce suffering also helps to reduce violence.

Regardless of empathy or morals, a selfish desire for safety alone should push you to support measures that decreases the odds of you getting caught up in something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I detest violence, I detest murder. But if murder do happen, I prefer to see single greedy CEO's killed a hundred times over all those school children.

Honestly I think that's a big reason people are seeing Luigi Mangione as a hero, no innocent victims. He had a target. He killed that target and no one else. No kids. No innocent wage slaves. Just one bastard.

If violence is the only way a message will get through to our oppressors let it be as little violence as necessary.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well yeah. It's just a sad thing that the US has gotten to a point that this is the only way how to get something done

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Totally agree with you on it being sad.