▲ 63 ▼ Whomp-whomp: AI PCs make users less productive (www.theregister.com) submitted 2 years ago by db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/techtakes@awful.systems 22 comments fedilink hide all child comments Cross-posted from "Whomp-whomp: AI PCs make users less productive" by @along_the_road@beehaw.org in !technology@beehaw.org
[–] sit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) What does three word normie mean to you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] capital@piefed.social -10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) People who struggle to find basic things via web searches. That is, before the somewhat recent ratcheted up enshitification. Generally, people who don't know how to work with the systems. As it relates to newer LLM search tools, not knowing how to prompt it correctly to get the desired output, knowing the limitations of LLMs to prevent you from doing something stupid, and knowing to check the sources that most of these LLMs provide before fully trusting the info it provides. Normies are the ones microwaving their phones after 4chan encouraged them to which happened way before LLMs were spitting out sometimes bad info. Those are the same people who are going to eat glue or whatever the LLM says because it read too much Reddit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] swlabr@awful.systems 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) People who struggle to find basic things via web searches. That is, before the somewhat recent ratcheted up enshitification This is you: LLMs are good, except they are enshittifying search, which follows from the fact that LLMs are bad. But actually, even though they are bad, I know how to use them, so LLMs are good, actually. Normies are dumb and I’m better than them and it doesn’t matter if search is good or bad, normies r dumb and normies will never learn to google good which they can learn from me, a LLM understander who is very smart permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] capital@piefed.social -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) You misunderstood me. The enshitification I was referring to is the increasingly bad, non LLM search results Google is returning. I've said this elsewhere but a good 90% of my searches don't involve LLM results whatsoever. Normies also don't seem to know what should stay a "standard" search (most searches, IMO) and what might be useful to utilize an LLM for. I think your response is a bit aggressive TBH. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] self@awful.systems 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think your response is a bit aggressive TBH. nah, an aggressive response is me telling you to fuck yourself as I ban you for a second(!) time for making these exact terrible fucking posts I’ve saved many hours of work with it, in languages I don’t really even know. maybe by next ban you’ll figure out why your PRs keep getting closed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] self@awful.systems 11 points 2 years ago fucking imagine coming back to a place you’re not welcome with this “eeehhh you’re being a bit aggressive tbh” shit permalink fedilink source parent [–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's just googling with several wildly pointless extra steps of also googling. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] capital@piefed.social -11 points 2 years ago (1 child) I've got nothing against people not using LLM search if they don't find value in it. That just doesn't describe me or my experience with it. To be clear, the vast majority of my searches don't involve LLM results at all. But I'm glad to have it on the edge cases where I find it useful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] quicksand@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) But I'm glad to have it on the edge cases where I find it useful. Such as? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] capital@piefed.social -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) I've used it for code, most often. I've saved many hours of work with it, in languages I don't really even know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pikesley@mastodon.me.uk 12 points 2 years ago @capital @quicksand powerful What Could Go Wrong energy permalink fedilink source parent [–] Shitgenstein1@awful.systems 1 point 2 years ago We've come so far and yet some things never change: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25J3u3P-HHg permalink fedilink source parent
[+] capital@piefed.social -10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) People who struggle to find basic things via web searches. That is, before the somewhat recent ratcheted up enshitification. Generally, people who don't know how to work with the systems. As it relates to newer LLM search tools, not knowing how to prompt it correctly to get the desired output, knowing the limitations of LLMs to prevent you from doing something stupid, and knowing to check the sources that most of these LLMs provide before fully trusting the info it provides. Normies are the ones microwaving their phones after 4chan encouraged them to which happened way before LLMs were spitting out sometimes bad info. Those are the same people who are going to eat glue or whatever the LLM says because it read too much Reddit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] swlabr@awful.systems 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) People who struggle to find basic things via web searches. That is, before the somewhat recent ratcheted up enshitification This is you: LLMs are good, except they are enshittifying search, which follows from the fact that LLMs are bad. But actually, even though they are bad, I know how to use them, so LLMs are good, actually. Normies are dumb and I’m better than them and it doesn’t matter if search is good or bad, normies r dumb and normies will never learn to google good which they can learn from me, a LLM understander who is very smart permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] capital@piefed.social -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) You misunderstood me. The enshitification I was referring to is the increasingly bad, non LLM search results Google is returning. I've said this elsewhere but a good 90% of my searches don't involve LLM results whatsoever. Normies also don't seem to know what should stay a "standard" search (most searches, IMO) and what might be useful to utilize an LLM for. I think your response is a bit aggressive TBH. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] self@awful.systems 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think your response is a bit aggressive TBH. nah, an aggressive response is me telling you to fuck yourself as I ban you for a second(!) time for making these exact terrible fucking posts I’ve saved many hours of work with it, in languages I don’t really even know. maybe by next ban you’ll figure out why your PRs keep getting closed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] self@awful.systems 11 points 2 years ago fucking imagine coming back to a place you’re not welcome with this “eeehhh you’re being a bit aggressive tbh” shit permalink fedilink source parent [–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's just googling with several wildly pointless extra steps of also googling. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] capital@piefed.social -11 points 2 years ago (1 child) I've got nothing against people not using LLM search if they don't find value in it. That just doesn't describe me or my experience with it. To be clear, the vast majority of my searches don't involve LLM results at all. But I'm glad to have it on the edge cases where I find it useful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] quicksand@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) But I'm glad to have it on the edge cases where I find it useful. Such as? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] capital@piefed.social -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) I've used it for code, most often. I've saved many hours of work with it, in languages I don't really even know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pikesley@mastodon.me.uk 12 points 2 years ago @capital @quicksand powerful What Could Go Wrong energy permalink fedilink source parent [–] Shitgenstein1@awful.systems 1 point 2 years ago We've come so far and yet some things never change: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25J3u3P-HHg permalink fedilink source parent
[–] swlabr@awful.systems 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) People who struggle to find basic things via web searches. That is, before the somewhat recent ratcheted up enshitification This is you: LLMs are good, except they are enshittifying search, which follows from the fact that LLMs are bad. But actually, even though they are bad, I know how to use them, so LLMs are good, actually. Normies are dumb and I’m better than them and it doesn’t matter if search is good or bad, normies r dumb and normies will never learn to google good which they can learn from me, a LLM understander who is very smart permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] capital@piefed.social -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) You misunderstood me. The enshitification I was referring to is the increasingly bad, non LLM search results Google is returning. I've said this elsewhere but a good 90% of my searches don't involve LLM results whatsoever. Normies also don't seem to know what should stay a "standard" search (most searches, IMO) and what might be useful to utilize an LLM for. I think your response is a bit aggressive TBH. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] self@awful.systems 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think your response is a bit aggressive TBH. nah, an aggressive response is me telling you to fuck yourself as I ban you for a second(!) time for making these exact terrible fucking posts I’ve saved many hours of work with it, in languages I don’t really even know. maybe by next ban you’ll figure out why your PRs keep getting closed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] self@awful.systems 11 points 2 years ago fucking imagine coming back to a place you’re not welcome with this “eeehhh you’re being a bit aggressive tbh” shit permalink fedilink source parent
[+] capital@piefed.social -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) You misunderstood me. The enshitification I was referring to is the increasingly bad, non LLM search results Google is returning. I've said this elsewhere but a good 90% of my searches don't involve LLM results whatsoever. Normies also don't seem to know what should stay a "standard" search (most searches, IMO) and what might be useful to utilize an LLM for. I think your response is a bit aggressive TBH. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] self@awful.systems 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think your response is a bit aggressive TBH. nah, an aggressive response is me telling you to fuck yourself as I ban you for a second(!) time for making these exact terrible fucking posts I’ve saved many hours of work with it, in languages I don’t really even know. maybe by next ban you’ll figure out why your PRs keep getting closed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] self@awful.systems 11 points 2 years ago fucking imagine coming back to a place you’re not welcome with this “eeehhh you’re being a bit aggressive tbh” shit permalink fedilink source parent
[–] self@awful.systems 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) I think your response is a bit aggressive TBH. nah, an aggressive response is me telling you to fuck yourself as I ban you for a second(!) time for making these exact terrible fucking posts I’ve saved many hours of work with it, in languages I don’t really even know. maybe by next ban you’ll figure out why your PRs keep getting closed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] self@awful.systems 11 points 2 years ago fucking imagine coming back to a place you’re not welcome with this “eeehhh you’re being a bit aggressive tbh” shit permalink fedilink source parent
[–] self@awful.systems 11 points 2 years ago fucking imagine coming back to a place you’re not welcome with this “eeehhh you’re being a bit aggressive tbh” shit permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's just googling with several wildly pointless extra steps of also googling. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] capital@piefed.social -11 points 2 years ago (1 child) I've got nothing against people not using LLM search if they don't find value in it. That just doesn't describe me or my experience with it. To be clear, the vast majority of my searches don't involve LLM results at all. But I'm glad to have it on the edge cases where I find it useful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] quicksand@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) But I'm glad to have it on the edge cases where I find it useful. Such as? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] capital@piefed.social -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) I've used it for code, most often. I've saved many hours of work with it, in languages I don't really even know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pikesley@mastodon.me.uk 12 points 2 years ago @capital @quicksand powerful What Could Go Wrong energy permalink fedilink source parent
[+] capital@piefed.social -11 points 2 years ago (1 child) I've got nothing against people not using LLM search if they don't find value in it. That just doesn't describe me or my experience with it. To be clear, the vast majority of my searches don't involve LLM results at all. But I'm glad to have it on the edge cases where I find it useful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] quicksand@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) But I'm glad to have it on the edge cases where I find it useful. Such as? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] capital@piefed.social -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) I've used it for code, most often. I've saved many hours of work with it, in languages I don't really even know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pikesley@mastodon.me.uk 12 points 2 years ago @capital @quicksand powerful What Could Go Wrong energy permalink fedilink source parent
[–] quicksand@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) But I'm glad to have it on the edge cases where I find it useful. Such as? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] capital@piefed.social -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) I've used it for code, most often. I've saved many hours of work with it, in languages I don't really even know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pikesley@mastodon.me.uk 12 points 2 years ago @capital @quicksand powerful What Could Go Wrong energy permalink fedilink source parent
[+] capital@piefed.social -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) I've used it for code, most often. I've saved many hours of work with it, in languages I don't really even know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pikesley@mastodon.me.uk 12 points 2 years ago @capital @quicksand powerful What Could Go Wrong energy permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pikesley@mastodon.me.uk 12 points 2 years ago @capital @quicksand powerful What Could Go Wrong energy permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shitgenstein1@awful.systems 1 point 2 years ago We've come so far and yet some things never change: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25J3u3P-HHg permalink fedilink source parent