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People who use the phrase "welcome to the internet" unironically, are the worst.
Ive been here since day one of the reddit black outs and i can tell you that, regardless of my expectations, i found this place to be much more harmonious and polite in terms of discussion.
There was a brief period of time where i found myself posting something relatively innocuous and then bracing for an argument that never came.
You say you just expect lemmy to be as bad as reddit, and i say that's kind of the problem.
I never said I expect lemmy to be bad as reddit. Actually I'd say my experience in reddit has been really positive until the end. I mainly used stuff like RES to block stuff I didn't have interest in which tends to clutter /r/all. Made /r/all nicer experience seeing more content I wanted that I might add to my collection of subreddits I enjoyed until the end.
Anyways, what it sounds like you want is heavier moderation, which in that case I recommend places like beehaw. Moderation is an important part of setting the atmosphere.
Weird thing is I didn't even see much over the line behavior from this discussion thread over all. Aside from some few comments throwing in unnecessary personal insults. You actually have been partaking in personal attacks despite making yourself seem above it, so check yourself on that too. But, overall it's just people disagreeing about the app which is fine. I'd say it's been cordial overall.
Not sure what personal attacks you are referring to. I would happily conceed if you can show me/point me to an example.
You said above that you didnt expect the behavior here to be any different to reddit which is why you use filters to avoid the toxicity. I took that to mean you found the behaviour on reddit to be bad and thought it would be the same on lemmy. Was that not what you meant?
Also im not the one who threw out a "welcome to the internet" like it was some kind of slam dunk to shut my point down.
I dont want to argue about this, feel free to give your response but then lets put this to bed.
You are the one who insinuated that I am unironically the worst and that I am part of the problem. If you are going to act like you are above other people at least try to behave more cordial if it's people behaving like "dicks" that has you riled up.
And my main point of welcome to the internet wasn't some dunk. It was implying that people here aren't anymore superior or special over people on reddit. Despite what people back on reddit liked to believe and some people on lemmy now. As I said before. Key to a space having the atmosphere you desire isn't the individuals, but moderation. It's the mods holding things together more than the individuals who are just as unruly as any other userbase if not kept in check. As much as users like to believe themselves to be superior there needs to be some humbling in that area. Moving to lemmy does not make them a special group than the people who stayed back on reddit that is a group above the negatives of reddit.
As for filtering? Well I usually have blocked all news, politics, and a whole bunch of meme focused communities over the years on reddit. The default subs like pics, funny, gifs, askreddit, etc. Would you put those subs in the category of toxicity? There are others reasons people block than a community itself being toxic. I'll go out of my way to block entertainment I'm interested in just to try to reduce chances of spoilers. Filtering benefit to me isn't just for toxicity, but curation in the absence of algorithms. I can understand the confusion though if your use was only for blocking toxic communities.
I said that people that use the phrase without irony are the worst.
I know thata not much different as im still insinuating that people like that are the worst. But im entitled to my opinion. I wasnt aiming it directly at you. But i accept that it sort of includes you if you meant it unironically. But i dont know one way or the other if you did.
Welcome to the internet is very condescending and i was simply clapping back. Dont put that on me if you started it.
I dont think im above people. Or above you. Im sorry that what i wrote came of that way, it was not my intention.
I also only questioned that you might be part of the problem based on what you were saying aboit not expecting thinga to be different here. I think thats pretty valid and isnt talking down to someone.
I think you are are maybe seeing something thats not there.
Im sorry i offended you. Im sorry i lumped you in with other people who i see as dicks.