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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I mean a can opener is very different, no? Or at least it is when I try to put myself in those shoes.

A can opener can open cans but nothing more. Sure you gain one piece of functionality, but you lose others.

Geordi's visor was a bit different in that he could see the visible light spectrum, but also a bunch of other stuff.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

bit different in that he could see the visible light spectrum

he could not: https://i.imgur.com/dlVpyIo.mp4

would you want to see like that? i mean if you were born blind and this was your only option, it is definitely better than nothing, but other than that, it is hard no from me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

That's a visual representation, in the visible light spectrum, of what he sees. He would see it differently than what appears on the viewscreen.

There's also nothing there that shows or says he can't see the visible light spectrum.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

There’s also nothing there that shows or says he can’t see the visible light spectrum.

there is, it is exactly there on the screen, his perception of visible spectrum is just one step above nothing. would you want to see like that? accompanied by occasional technical problems and pain? would you call that superior to your eyes?

He would see it differently than what appears on the viewscreen.

that is just unfounded assumption, if you want to argue like that, you can make up literally anything and the discussion loses sense (not that the level of sense was very high anyway 😆)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

But that's not how he sees, or how any of this works 🤦

Things that see stuff in the (to us) non-visible spectrum don't see it in the visible light spectrum.

An insect that sees ultraviolet light doesn't see it how we see it when we apply a camera filter to view it. That's just the camera shifting it to our visible light spectrum, because we can't see ultraviolet.

A screen showing an image in ultraviolet light would not be usable to us.

The viewscreen Picard was looking at wasn't magically adding cones to his eyes and allowing him to see a wider range of the light spectrum. It was showing a representation in the visible light spectrum of what the visor can detect.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

An insect that sees ultraviolet light doesn’t see it how we see it

It was showing a representation in the visible light spectrum of what the visor can detect

the insect's brain evolved to process insect's available sensory input, so did human's. so geordi would see exactly the same reducted picture that we see on the viewscreen, because that is the only thing our brain knows how to do.

and you are still narrowing this discussion to subset of the facts. there is still the fact of visor being piece of technology that can be lost, malfunction, causes occasional pain and allows its wearer to be hacked by romulan intelligence. i don't call that superior to my eyes.

anyway, i don't think we will progress further in this discussion, so until next time 🖖