β² 304 βΌ What are some notable blunders in history that resulted in huge loss? (lemmy.ml) submitted 3 years ago by bady@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml 209 comments fedilink hide all child comments Loss in terms of money or efforts. Could be recent or ancient.
[+] WtfEvenIsExistence@reddthat.com 48 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] Alivrah@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago (4 children) This is why I never felt comfortable enough to use one of those. A have a formula for generating passwords for each account so I only have to remember that instead of individual passwords. I know password manager might be more convenient but I'm too used to the way I've been doing things all these years... Have you had any luck recovering your Bitwarden? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [β] foo@withachanceof.com 19 points 3 years ago (2 children) What's more likely: forgetting the master password to your password manager or one of the many passwords you have memorized? I totally get not wanting to trust a hosted service with all of your passwords in case it disappears (having an offline backup would remedy that), but not using one out of fear of forgetting a master password is overblown. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 9 points 3 years ago* (1 child) You can always do the mostly sane thing of having a master password to your main vault as the only saved password of different password vault, i.e bitwardens master password saved in an encyrpted keepass file. You have 2 passwords to remember, but also a fail safe if you forget one. That or just write it down somewhere safe and sane. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] 8ace40@programming.dev 4 points 3 years ago The best offline backup is a piece of paper. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Alivrah@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago I get what you mean and you're right. It's just that I got used to how I memorize my passwords and so far haven't really felt the need to try a manager (yet). permalink fedilink source parent [β] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 9 points 3 years ago Bitwarden effectivly uses your master password to encrypt all the other passwords. Without the master password all the data is gibberish. Even if you reset your master password, you get back nothing. permalink fedilink source parent [+] WtfEvenIsExistence@reddthat.com 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] fneu@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 years ago There are Browser plug-ins for captchas. Havenβt tried any, but in your case it might be worth it to check them out. permalink fedilink source parent [β] linearchaos@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I used to do this, there's always a slight worry that some place will get a couple of your passwords and be able to figure out your formula the chances are pretty slim. Were the real pain came from me, when a website forces you to change your password, or they require some limit to the letters numbers and punctuation that wouldn't allow me to use my formula. I had a growing list of websites that had more exceptions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Alivrah@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) You're right about those pesky sites that have exceptions (like no special characters)! Alright, I'll check out a password manager. Maybe it's time to see if I can get used to it... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] linearchaos@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I started out using LastPass because it's what work used which was obviously a bad idea. When it came time to leave them I moved to bitwarden which has been pretty fantastic but I mainly use it because I need to share passwords amongst my family and I really like the TOTP integration. If I didn't have that need I would probably use KeypassX and throw it's database into a Dropbox or Syncthing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Alivrah@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago I just downloaded Proton Pass. I've been using their email for years now and I like it quite a lot. But I'll check out bitwarden as well! permalink fedilink source parent [β] bady@lemmy.ml [S] 7 points 3 years ago Sorry to hear that. I didn't mean to remind people of their personal mistakes. Hope you'll recover your password soon. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Spaghetti_Hitchens@kbin.social 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) You have my deepest sympathies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] WtfEvenIsExistence@reddthat.com 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Alivrah@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago (4 children) This is why I never felt comfortable enough to use one of those. A have a formula for generating passwords for each account so I only have to remember that instead of individual passwords. I know password manager might be more convenient but I'm too used to the way I've been doing things all these years... Have you had any luck recovering your Bitwarden? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [β] foo@withachanceof.com 19 points 3 years ago (2 children) What's more likely: forgetting the master password to your password manager or one of the many passwords you have memorized? I totally get not wanting to trust a hosted service with all of your passwords in case it disappears (having an offline backup would remedy that), but not using one out of fear of forgetting a master password is overblown. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 9 points 3 years ago* (1 child) You can always do the mostly sane thing of having a master password to your main vault as the only saved password of different password vault, i.e bitwardens master password saved in an encyrpted keepass file. You have 2 passwords to remember, but also a fail safe if you forget one. That or just write it down somewhere safe and sane. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] 8ace40@programming.dev 4 points 3 years ago The best offline backup is a piece of paper. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Alivrah@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago I get what you mean and you're right. It's just that I got used to how I memorize my passwords and so far haven't really felt the need to try a manager (yet). permalink fedilink source parent [β] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 9 points 3 years ago Bitwarden effectivly uses your master password to encrypt all the other passwords. Without the master password all the data is gibberish. Even if you reset your master password, you get back nothing. permalink fedilink source parent [+] WtfEvenIsExistence@reddthat.com 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] fneu@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 years ago There are Browser plug-ins for captchas. Havenβt tried any, but in your case it might be worth it to check them out. permalink fedilink source parent [β] linearchaos@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I used to do this, there's always a slight worry that some place will get a couple of your passwords and be able to figure out your formula the chances are pretty slim. Were the real pain came from me, when a website forces you to change your password, or they require some limit to the letters numbers and punctuation that wouldn't allow me to use my formula. I had a growing list of websites that had more exceptions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Alivrah@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) You're right about those pesky sites that have exceptions (like no special characters)! Alright, I'll check out a password manager. Maybe it's time to see if I can get used to it... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] linearchaos@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I started out using LastPass because it's what work used which was obviously a bad idea. When it came time to leave them I moved to bitwarden which has been pretty fantastic but I mainly use it because I need to share passwords amongst my family and I really like the TOTP integration. If I didn't have that need I would probably use KeypassX and throw it's database into a Dropbox or Syncthing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Alivrah@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago I just downloaded Proton Pass. I've been using their email for years now and I like it quite a lot. But I'll check out bitwarden as well! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] foo@withachanceof.com 19 points 3 years ago (2 children) What's more likely: forgetting the master password to your password manager or one of the many passwords you have memorized? I totally get not wanting to trust a hosted service with all of your passwords in case it disappears (having an offline backup would remedy that), but not using one out of fear of forgetting a master password is overblown. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 9 points 3 years ago* (1 child) You can always do the mostly sane thing of having a master password to your main vault as the only saved password of different password vault, i.e bitwardens master password saved in an encyrpted keepass file. You have 2 passwords to remember, but also a fail safe if you forget one. That or just write it down somewhere safe and sane. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] 8ace40@programming.dev 4 points 3 years ago The best offline backup is a piece of paper. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Alivrah@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago I get what you mean and you're right. It's just that I got used to how I memorize my passwords and so far haven't really felt the need to try a manager (yet). permalink fedilink source parent
[β] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 9 points 3 years ago* (1 child) You can always do the mostly sane thing of having a master password to your main vault as the only saved password of different password vault, i.e bitwardens master password saved in an encyrpted keepass file. You have 2 passwords to remember, but also a fail safe if you forget one. That or just write it down somewhere safe and sane. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] 8ace40@programming.dev 4 points 3 years ago The best offline backup is a piece of paper. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] 8ace40@programming.dev 4 points 3 years ago The best offline backup is a piece of paper. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Alivrah@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago I get what you mean and you're right. It's just that I got used to how I memorize my passwords and so far haven't really felt the need to try a manager (yet). permalink fedilink source parent
[β] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 9 points 3 years ago Bitwarden effectivly uses your master password to encrypt all the other passwords. Without the master password all the data is gibberish. Even if you reset your master password, you get back nothing. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] WtfEvenIsExistence@reddthat.com 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] fneu@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 years ago There are Browser plug-ins for captchas. Havenβt tried any, but in your case it might be worth it to check them out. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] fneu@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 years ago There are Browser plug-ins for captchas. Havenβt tried any, but in your case it might be worth it to check them out. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] linearchaos@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I used to do this, there's always a slight worry that some place will get a couple of your passwords and be able to figure out your formula the chances are pretty slim. Were the real pain came from me, when a website forces you to change your password, or they require some limit to the letters numbers and punctuation that wouldn't allow me to use my formula. I had a growing list of websites that had more exceptions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Alivrah@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) You're right about those pesky sites that have exceptions (like no special characters)! Alright, I'll check out a password manager. Maybe it's time to see if I can get used to it... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] linearchaos@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I started out using LastPass because it's what work used which was obviously a bad idea. When it came time to leave them I moved to bitwarden which has been pretty fantastic but I mainly use it because I need to share passwords amongst my family and I really like the TOTP integration. If I didn't have that need I would probably use KeypassX and throw it's database into a Dropbox or Syncthing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Alivrah@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago I just downloaded Proton Pass. I've been using their email for years now and I like it quite a lot. But I'll check out bitwarden as well! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Alivrah@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) You're right about those pesky sites that have exceptions (like no special characters)! Alright, I'll check out a password manager. Maybe it's time to see if I can get used to it... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] linearchaos@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I started out using LastPass because it's what work used which was obviously a bad idea. When it came time to leave them I moved to bitwarden which has been pretty fantastic but I mainly use it because I need to share passwords amongst my family and I really like the TOTP integration. If I didn't have that need I would probably use KeypassX and throw it's database into a Dropbox or Syncthing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Alivrah@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago I just downloaded Proton Pass. I've been using their email for years now and I like it quite a lot. But I'll check out bitwarden as well! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] linearchaos@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I started out using LastPass because it's what work used which was obviously a bad idea. When it came time to leave them I moved to bitwarden which has been pretty fantastic but I mainly use it because I need to share passwords amongst my family and I really like the TOTP integration. If I didn't have that need I would probably use KeypassX and throw it's database into a Dropbox or Syncthing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Alivrah@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago I just downloaded Proton Pass. I've been using their email for years now and I like it quite a lot. But I'll check out bitwarden as well! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Alivrah@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago I just downloaded Proton Pass. I've been using their email for years now and I like it quite a lot. But I'll check out bitwarden as well! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] bady@lemmy.ml [S] 7 points 3 years ago Sorry to hear that. I didn't mean to remind people of their personal mistakes. Hope you'll recover your password soon. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Spaghetti_Hitchens@kbin.social 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) You have my deepest sympathies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] WtfEvenIsExistence@reddthat.com 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] WtfEvenIsExistence@reddthat.com 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent