▲ 114 ▼ Donald Trump Team Plans to Cancel Biden's $7,500 Tax Incentive On EVs (vocal.media) submitted 2 years ago by Lordin1@beehaw.org to c/technology@beehaw.org 37 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] witx@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] papertowels@lemmy.one 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Apparently Tesla's on board with this. Their thinking, which I think is correct, is that the rebate benefits other manufacturers more since Tesla is much more established as an EV brand. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] megopie@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) the problem is that they’re also one of the more expensive options. And they have a pretty bad reputation for quality now. So a 7,500 price increase is probably going to push people to look for higher quality at the 40 thousand price range, or for one of the cheaper options in the 30 thousand range. Assuming they don’t just go for a Prius instead. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] papertowels@lemmy.one 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Imo anyone considering a Tesla won't really care about the price and quality, for the reasons you describe. They're there for the brand. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 6 points 2 years ago Apple users permalink fedilink source parent [–] megopie@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yah, but musk has been doing some serious brand damage lately, so can they really keep selling on that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] phonoodles@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago Antidotal but as someone who bought a model 3 in 2018 and still likes the car, the next car a buy won't be a Tesla because I don't want to support or be associated with Elon. permalink fedilink source parent [–] philpo@feddit.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Tesla, according to Musk,can keep the prices due to their insane margins. Musk actually wants these subsidies cut to destroy his competition. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] megopie@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago I just don’t think his product will be competitive when the market moves up a whole price bracket, even if he thinks so. People willing buy a 30,000$ new car are going to have more patience for poor quality than people who are willing to pay 40,000$. Like the market will shrink as some people are priced out, and those who remain will probably opt for something like an Ioniq-5, a Solterra, or a EX30 which are just nicer cars. Their main issues right now are a lack of availability, but that’s less of an issue as the market shrinks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] papertowels@lemmy.one 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Apparently Tesla's on board with this. Their thinking, which I think is correct, is that the rebate benefits other manufacturers more since Tesla is much more established as an EV brand. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] megopie@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) the problem is that they’re also one of the more expensive options. And they have a pretty bad reputation for quality now. So a 7,500 price increase is probably going to push people to look for higher quality at the 40 thousand price range, or for one of the cheaper options in the 30 thousand range. Assuming they don’t just go for a Prius instead. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] papertowels@lemmy.one 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Imo anyone considering a Tesla won't really care about the price and quality, for the reasons you describe. They're there for the brand. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 6 points 2 years ago Apple users permalink fedilink source parent [–] megopie@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yah, but musk has been doing some serious brand damage lately, so can they really keep selling on that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] phonoodles@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago Antidotal but as someone who bought a model 3 in 2018 and still likes the car, the next car a buy won't be a Tesla because I don't want to support or be associated with Elon. permalink fedilink source parent [–] philpo@feddit.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Tesla, according to Musk,can keep the prices due to their insane margins. Musk actually wants these subsidies cut to destroy his competition. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] megopie@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago I just don’t think his product will be competitive when the market moves up a whole price bracket, even if he thinks so. People willing buy a 30,000$ new car are going to have more patience for poor quality than people who are willing to pay 40,000$. Like the market will shrink as some people are priced out, and those who remain will probably opt for something like an Ioniq-5, a Solterra, or a EX30 which are just nicer cars. Their main issues right now are a lack of availability, but that’s less of an issue as the market shrinks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] megopie@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) the problem is that they’re also one of the more expensive options. And they have a pretty bad reputation for quality now. So a 7,500 price increase is probably going to push people to look for higher quality at the 40 thousand price range, or for one of the cheaper options in the 30 thousand range. Assuming they don’t just go for a Prius instead. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] papertowels@lemmy.one 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Imo anyone considering a Tesla won't really care about the price and quality, for the reasons you describe. They're there for the brand. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 6 points 2 years ago Apple users permalink fedilink source parent [–] megopie@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yah, but musk has been doing some serious brand damage lately, so can they really keep selling on that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] phonoodles@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago Antidotal but as someone who bought a model 3 in 2018 and still likes the car, the next car a buy won't be a Tesla because I don't want to support or be associated with Elon. permalink fedilink source parent [–] philpo@feddit.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Tesla, according to Musk,can keep the prices due to their insane margins. Musk actually wants these subsidies cut to destroy his competition. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] megopie@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago I just don’t think his product will be competitive when the market moves up a whole price bracket, even if he thinks so. People willing buy a 30,000$ new car are going to have more patience for poor quality than people who are willing to pay 40,000$. Like the market will shrink as some people are priced out, and those who remain will probably opt for something like an Ioniq-5, a Solterra, or a EX30 which are just nicer cars. Their main issues right now are a lack of availability, but that’s less of an issue as the market shrinks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] papertowels@lemmy.one 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Imo anyone considering a Tesla won't really care about the price and quality, for the reasons you describe. They're there for the brand. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 6 points 2 years ago Apple users permalink fedilink source parent [–] megopie@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yah, but musk has been doing some serious brand damage lately, so can they really keep selling on that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] phonoodles@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago Antidotal but as someone who bought a model 3 in 2018 and still likes the car, the next car a buy won't be a Tesla because I don't want to support or be associated with Elon. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] megopie@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yah, but musk has been doing some serious brand damage lately, so can they really keep selling on that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] phonoodles@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago Antidotal but as someone who bought a model 3 in 2018 and still likes the car, the next car a buy won't be a Tesla because I don't want to support or be associated with Elon. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] phonoodles@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago Antidotal but as someone who bought a model 3 in 2018 and still likes the car, the next car a buy won't be a Tesla because I don't want to support or be associated with Elon. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] philpo@feddit.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Tesla, according to Musk,can keep the prices due to their insane margins. Musk actually wants these subsidies cut to destroy his competition. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] megopie@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago I just don’t think his product will be competitive when the market moves up a whole price bracket, even if he thinks so. People willing buy a 30,000$ new car are going to have more patience for poor quality than people who are willing to pay 40,000$. Like the market will shrink as some people are priced out, and those who remain will probably opt for something like an Ioniq-5, a Solterra, or a EX30 which are just nicer cars. Their main issues right now are a lack of availability, but that’s less of an issue as the market shrinks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] megopie@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago I just don’t think his product will be competitive when the market moves up a whole price bracket, even if he thinks so. People willing buy a 30,000$ new car are going to have more patience for poor quality than people who are willing to pay 40,000$. Like the market will shrink as some people are priced out, and those who remain will probably opt for something like an Ioniq-5, a Solterra, or a EX30 which are just nicer cars. Their main issues right now are a lack of availability, but that’s less of an issue as the market shrinks. permalink fedilink source parent