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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

That’s all.

EDIT: Thank you all for detailing your experience with, and hatred for, this miserable product. Your display of solidarity is inspiring. Now, say it with me:

Fuck Microsoft

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I do not believe anyone at Microsoft actually uses it because if they did there's no way in hell that they would have let it be that bad.

It literally keeps every single conversation you've ever had in a big long list on the left, with absolutely no way to organize it, categorize it, order it, or in any way manage it other than deleting history, that's it you can delete history.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Microsoft's design philosophy in any of their products has gone from well organized menus to relying instead on a search bar. Copilot is a further addition to that design, with yet more pushes to never use a menu, but instead just tell it what you want and have it spit it back out. They want everything you make to go on OneDrive as well, so it can also be indexed this way. Teams works the same way. The big search bar at the top is unavoidable.

Windows search is complete garbage, which you might think is a counterpoint, but instead it's just that they only put work into having it serve results for cloud-indexed items or web results.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

There's a program called "Everything" which is basically just a functional version of Windows search. It's one of those programs that really should be integrated into the OS but isn't. The other one being Fences.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Everything is lovely. Fences is definitely user preference though. I'm too generally disorganized to make use of it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

That's my primary gripe too. I could theoretically work around it if the chat search worked. I'll try searching for a specific word to see who said it to me and when, but if it was more than a couple days ago I'm out of luck. Later I'll remember who said it, eventually find them in the sidebar, scroll up 40 pages in the chat, and find the exact word Teams claimed it's never heard of.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

It literally keeps every single conversation you've ever had in a big long list on the left,

Not all of them, actually. I regularly have to use the search function to find chats/groups I haven't used in a bit. The most organization you can do is the dozen pinned threads they let you have.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I believe they will never allow users to delete entire chats like that because it will cause mass panic for users and managers, particularly. You already have users doing dumb shit like deleting files accidentally. And more than that, you’ll have managers getting upset that users may be doing it on purpose like “omg I never saw that message! 😱 “

Deleting your own stuff is easy and okayed because it’s not an easy process and it involves multiple steps.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

with absolutely no way to organize it, categorize it, order it, or in any way manage it other than deleting history

But you can pin any chat and you can reorder any pinned chat (and maybe even non-pinned ones - I haven't checked).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

But only 15. Yeah, I hit that limit regularly. I just want to put things in folders. That would be a major improvement.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I want to be able to label chats. I don't know who Sammy Gupta is, I know we must have spoken to them at some point but it was 2 years ago and I don't remember who they are, what their role or responsibility is, or anything about them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wouldn't the folder structure kind of defeat the purpose of the messenger vs mail?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Not when you’re expected to use it as a texting/messenger device for work. I have so many threads and DMs through it that I truly need to make it more organized. I’m not alone.

I think when I said stuff you weren’t thinking of threads and chats but that’s what I meant. Apologies.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean, when you need to operate chats via folder structure, wouldn't it make Оutlook out of it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Not when you need real time chats, no.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I know someone working there. I was in a few group calls he organised using teams where I used an anonymous login. Then Microsoft forced you to make an account to use it, so I declined after that.