▲ 1025 ▼ Corporations are not your Friends: A Story in Two Parts (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago by renzev@lemmy.world to c/memes@lemmy.world 153 comments fedilink hide all child comments Screenshot sources: https://lemmy.world/post/21863843?scrollToComments=true https://lemmy.sdf.org/comment/4997189
[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 48 points 2 years ago (2 children) Only in Germany in a test of a lower Premium plan so far. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] deus@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago (7 children) What's the point of paying for YouTube Premium if you get ads anyway? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 42 points 2 years ago (5 children) You get amazing features like: background play (which is more of an annoyance), remember where i left off (which doesnt work whatsoever, even 5 years after it was first released), download video's to watch offline (you need to remember to download them first or hope that YouTube's recommendation algoritm didnt pick videos you've already wachted) oh, and you can get a slightly higher bitrate for 1080p. So basically it loses all value. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yea, but your “download” f**ing expires! So it’s useless when you go somewhere with no internet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) wait, what? does it download as some proprietary format and not a normal video file then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0laura@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 years ago yep. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lugal@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) As if there weren't other ways to download videos from YouTube... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Slovene@feddit.nl 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hehehe what do you mean? I have no idea what you're talking about. 👀 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lugal@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago Me neither laughs nervously permalink fedilink source parent [–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago* I'd recommend downloading from sources that don't compress a much/badly as YouTube does ;) permalink fedilink source parent [–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago I remember when background play was for everyone. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cafeinux@infosec.pub 2 points 2 years ago So... Basically NewPipe but paid and with ads? Brb, going to setup a monthly 14€ donation to the NewPipe team. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Technofrood@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago And YouTube music which honestly seems to do the heavy lifting on the value equation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 26 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well, you get to pay for YouTube and see ads! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] kabi@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] psmgx@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's be a great if it weren't for the fact that like 95% of the ads I get shown aren't remotely relevant. It's like gatcha games or diapers. At least the Lexus and Jaguar ads are flattering cuz they think I'm fancy even though I don't make enough to ever afford one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Biskii@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) What if it was a diaper gatcha game? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Pretty sure that's what diapers are permalink fedilink source parent [–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago Dude - what!? Can I pay someone to show me these products I would have to pay for? Let's be real, just watching what I want when I want just isn't engaging enough for me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dustyData@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago Executive bonuses, of course. Won't you think of the poor millionaires? /s permalink fedilink source parent [–] moriquende@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago The other replies are incorrect, the lower tier premium actually has no ads on most videos. When you subscribe, they explicitly let you know music videos will play ads, probably so this plan is not eating away profits of YouTube music. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maalus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Other features I guess. Like the bullcrap "are you still watching" that pops up every three videos, music maybe. I'm thinking of some waiting room TV thing, but then again you don't want ads in that usecase either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I actualy almost don't get any are you still watching on my pc since like summer 🤷 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maalus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I get it on mobile. I think it does it with playlists. I launch some music for background noise and it stops after a while. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 9point6@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I guess YouTube music? permalink fedilink source parent [–] smb@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago they get even more revenue from other peoples contributions. thats the whole point not more, not less. so there is no point for "you" to pay them anything. did you as a "premium customer" thought to be "the customer"? really? remember how little you personally pay for the service. it is mainly the ad companies who are youtubes "customers". when you pay them for something, you only increase yt's revenue, not more, not less, but you are not "the customer", you are the product ;-) permalink fedilink source parent [–] Daveyborn@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Thanks for the info! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] deus@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago (7 children) What's the point of paying for YouTube Premium if you get ads anyway? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 42 points 2 years ago (5 children) You get amazing features like: background play (which is more of an annoyance), remember where i left off (which doesnt work whatsoever, even 5 years after it was first released), download video's to watch offline (you need to remember to download them first or hope that YouTube's recommendation algoritm didnt pick videos you've already wachted) oh, and you can get a slightly higher bitrate for 1080p. So basically it loses all value. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yea, but your “download” f**ing expires! So it’s useless when you go somewhere with no internet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) wait, what? does it download as some proprietary format and not a normal video file then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0laura@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 years ago yep. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lugal@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) As if there weren't other ways to download videos from YouTube... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Slovene@feddit.nl 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hehehe what do you mean? I have no idea what you're talking about. 👀 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lugal@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago Me neither laughs nervously permalink fedilink source parent [–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago* I'd recommend downloading from sources that don't compress a much/badly as YouTube does ;) permalink fedilink source parent [–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago I remember when background play was for everyone. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cafeinux@infosec.pub 2 points 2 years ago So... Basically NewPipe but paid and with ads? Brb, going to setup a monthly 14€ donation to the NewPipe team. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Technofrood@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago And YouTube music which honestly seems to do the heavy lifting on the value equation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 26 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well, you get to pay for YouTube and see ads! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] kabi@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] psmgx@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's be a great if it weren't for the fact that like 95% of the ads I get shown aren't remotely relevant. It's like gatcha games or diapers. At least the Lexus and Jaguar ads are flattering cuz they think I'm fancy even though I don't make enough to ever afford one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Biskii@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) What if it was a diaper gatcha game? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Pretty sure that's what diapers are permalink fedilink source parent [–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago Dude - what!? Can I pay someone to show me these products I would have to pay for? Let's be real, just watching what I want when I want just isn't engaging enough for me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dustyData@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago Executive bonuses, of course. Won't you think of the poor millionaires? /s permalink fedilink source parent [–] moriquende@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago The other replies are incorrect, the lower tier premium actually has no ads on most videos. When you subscribe, they explicitly let you know music videos will play ads, probably so this plan is not eating away profits of YouTube music. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maalus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Other features I guess. Like the bullcrap "are you still watching" that pops up every three videos, music maybe. I'm thinking of some waiting room TV thing, but then again you don't want ads in that usecase either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I actualy almost don't get any are you still watching on my pc since like summer 🤷 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maalus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I get it on mobile. I think it does it with playlists. I launch some music for background noise and it stops after a while. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 9point6@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I guess YouTube music? permalink fedilink source parent [–] smb@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago they get even more revenue from other peoples contributions. thats the whole point not more, not less. so there is no point for "you" to pay them anything. did you as a "premium customer" thought to be "the customer"? really? remember how little you personally pay for the service. it is mainly the ad companies who are youtubes "customers". when you pay them for something, you only increase yt's revenue, not more, not less, but you are not "the customer", you are the product ;-) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 42 points 2 years ago (5 children) You get amazing features like: background play (which is more of an annoyance), remember where i left off (which doesnt work whatsoever, even 5 years after it was first released), download video's to watch offline (you need to remember to download them first or hope that YouTube's recommendation algoritm didnt pick videos you've already wachted) oh, and you can get a slightly higher bitrate for 1080p. So basically it loses all value. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yea, but your “download” f**ing expires! So it’s useless when you go somewhere with no internet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) wait, what? does it download as some proprietary format and not a normal video file then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0laura@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 years ago yep. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lugal@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) As if there weren't other ways to download videos from YouTube... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Slovene@feddit.nl 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hehehe what do you mean? I have no idea what you're talking about. 👀 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lugal@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago Me neither laughs nervously permalink fedilink source parent [–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago* I'd recommend downloading from sources that don't compress a much/badly as YouTube does ;) permalink fedilink source parent [–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago I remember when background play was for everyone. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cafeinux@infosec.pub 2 points 2 years ago So... Basically NewPipe but paid and with ads? Brb, going to setup a monthly 14€ donation to the NewPipe team. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Technofrood@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago And YouTube music which honestly seems to do the heavy lifting on the value equation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yea, but your “download” f**ing expires! So it’s useless when you go somewhere with no internet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) wait, what? does it download as some proprietary format and not a normal video file then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0laura@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 years ago yep. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) wait, what? does it download as some proprietary format and not a normal video file then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0laura@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 years ago yep. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lugal@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) As if there weren't other ways to download videos from YouTube... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Slovene@feddit.nl 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hehehe what do you mean? I have no idea what you're talking about. 👀 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lugal@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago Me neither laughs nervously permalink fedilink source parent [–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago* I'd recommend downloading from sources that don't compress a much/badly as YouTube does ;) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Slovene@feddit.nl 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hehehe what do you mean? I have no idea what you're talking about. 👀 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lugal@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago Me neither laughs nervously permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago* I'd recommend downloading from sources that don't compress a much/badly as YouTube does ;) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago I remember when background play was for everyone. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cafeinux@infosec.pub 2 points 2 years ago So... Basically NewPipe but paid and with ads? Brb, going to setup a monthly 14€ donation to the NewPipe team. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Technofrood@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago And YouTube music which honestly seems to do the heavy lifting on the value equation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 26 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well, you get to pay for YouTube and see ads! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] kabi@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] psmgx@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's be a great if it weren't for the fact that like 95% of the ads I get shown aren't remotely relevant. It's like gatcha games or diapers. At least the Lexus and Jaguar ads are flattering cuz they think I'm fancy even though I don't make enough to ever afford one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Biskii@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) What if it was a diaper gatcha game? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Pretty sure that's what diapers are permalink fedilink source parent [–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago Dude - what!? Can I pay someone to show me these products I would have to pay for? Let's be real, just watching what I want when I want just isn't engaging enough for me. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] kabi@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] psmgx@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's be a great if it weren't for the fact that like 95% of the ads I get shown aren't remotely relevant. It's like gatcha games or diapers. At least the Lexus and Jaguar ads are flattering cuz they think I'm fancy even though I don't make enough to ever afford one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Biskii@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) What if it was a diaper gatcha game? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Pretty sure that's what diapers are permalink fedilink source parent [–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago Dude - what!? Can I pay someone to show me these products I would have to pay for? Let's be real, just watching what I want when I want just isn't engaging enough for me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] psmgx@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's be a great if it weren't for the fact that like 95% of the ads I get shown aren't remotely relevant. It's like gatcha games or diapers. At least the Lexus and Jaguar ads are flattering cuz they think I'm fancy even though I don't make enough to ever afford one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Biskii@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) What if it was a diaper gatcha game? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Pretty sure that's what diapers are permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Biskii@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) What if it was a diaper gatcha game? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Pretty sure that's what diapers are permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Pretty sure that's what diapers are permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago Dude - what!? Can I pay someone to show me these products I would have to pay for? Let's be real, just watching what I want when I want just isn't engaging enough for me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago Executive bonuses, of course. Won't you think of the poor millionaires? /s permalink fedilink source parent
[–] moriquende@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago The other replies are incorrect, the lower tier premium actually has no ads on most videos. When you subscribe, they explicitly let you know music videos will play ads, probably so this plan is not eating away profits of YouTube music. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Other features I guess. Like the bullcrap "are you still watching" that pops up every three videos, music maybe. I'm thinking of some waiting room TV thing, but then again you don't want ads in that usecase either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I actualy almost don't get any are you still watching on my pc since like summer 🤷 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maalus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I get it on mobile. I think it does it with playlists. I launch some music for background noise and it stops after a while. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I actualy almost don't get any are you still watching on my pc since like summer 🤷 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maalus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I get it on mobile. I think it does it with playlists. I launch some music for background noise and it stops after a while. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I get it on mobile. I think it does it with playlists. I launch some music for background noise and it stops after a while. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] smb@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago they get even more revenue from other peoples contributions. thats the whole point not more, not less. so there is no point for "you" to pay them anything. did you as a "premium customer" thought to be "the customer"? really? remember how little you personally pay for the service. it is mainly the ad companies who are youtubes "customers". when you pay them for something, you only increase yt's revenue, not more, not less, but you are not "the customer", you are the product ;-) permalink fedilink source parent