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[September 2024] JD Vance says US could drop support for NATO if Europe tries to regulate Elon Musk’s platforms (www.independent.co.uk)

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JD Vance said that ‘American power comes with certain strings attached’

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

And then you get idiots that will tell someone that is not American : "uh why do you care so much about our election, it's not your country"

Well yes your (vice) president is starting to extort the rest of the world before even starting his mandate...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Also, we draw lines on maps and build borders but the environment doesnt care where pollution & emissions originate, everything spreads everywhere in the end.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)

An NATO without the US would be better for the whole world although I know that it's not Vance intention

[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Very much this.

Just look at the TPP. The US tried to write the rules and the rest of the partners said, "No." The US said, "Screw you guys, we're going home!" and stormed off in a snit assuming the deal would fall apart without them but it didn't and it ended up being better without the US imperialist bullshit. Then, US farmers realized that they were getting fucked because the US wasn't part of the deal ([1], [2], [3]) and the US came back demanding to be let in and the US imperialist bullshit restored to the agreement. Once again the partnerd said, "No".

Let's let the US leave whatever they want to leave, renegotiate everything without them, then only let them return under the new terms. The world will be a much better place in the end.

EDIT: Trump ordered the US to withdraw from the TPP because the partners wouldn't be bullied into accepting one-sided andi-competitive, anti-consumer protections for US industry and a dispute resolution process that favoured the US but that the US would ignore when it lost.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

This is the absolute weirdest thing about Trump's governance to me: how sometimes he ends up doing good things for terrible reasons, like when the US redeployed from Syria.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

And there are countries littered with US air bases. Like the one only a few miles from here that regularly houses bombers.